Depending on their opinion it could be

1. Because they prefer a fancier shell that isn’t bash
2. Because they prefer their shell scripts to be in standard POSIX Compliant shell language without the bash extensions and features
3. Most likely answer that bash is pretty good for hacking some stuff together, but not great for larger long term maintainable projects versus other programming languages.

I think it’s fun though, and I’m not going to be the one maintaining it 😛

Alien versus Predator Dickdown?

I’d say the only meaningful distinction is that some people make up a definition “bi” could have had but never did, and then use “pan” in opposition to that 😛

But more honestly I asked my sister why she identifies as pan rather than bi, and her answer was that bi attracted the wrong people and pan attracted the right people 😉

Also a Canadian (Ontario) millennial, I don’t think I’ve heard “ding ding ditch”, but would’ve called it “nicky nine doors”, no “knocky”, and no “nicky nicky”.

Never really thought about why it was called that 😛

Would you say… they have a deficit… of attention? 😛

Isn’t that ironic? Don’cha think?

For sure, for sure, but that’s a little beside the point I’m trying to make in this comment in particular. In theory a band that used AI to make album art is making money from their art, the music, technically more because they aren’t spending that money on someone else’s art, which is the graphic art or photography.

And the filmmaker using AI for scoring might be making money from their art, the filmmaking, but doesn’t have to pay a composer or musicians.

The problem is that each of them individually might think this is great, their own art just got easier and cheaper to make, but in doing so at large, the entire ecosystem blows apart 😅

Welllll, I wouldn’t go fully that far either. There’s two kinds of power here, power of some monster megacorp. Probably bad. But also a startup not wanting to pay an artist for their skill and taste… I’d say isn’t the same power dynamic. If anything this is actually the part of AI I’m most worried about.

Because I think there is value in freeing people up to pursue their interests on the one hand, but on the other hand if there’s no collaboration between people at all, and everyone does their own thing and relies on the machine to fill in the rest… that I think is actually a major risk to humanity.

As in, if the musician uses AI to make album art for their music, and the indie filmmaker uses AI to make music for their score, and the screenwriter uses AI to make a video from their script, and a videogame programmer uses AI to write their dialog, and on and on, we end up with a lot of people “freed up” from depending on others, but we also absolutely shred any sort of community or cooperation and the whole of human expression becomes a hub-and-spoke with the AI at the centre of all things rather than a web of collaboration. And I think that’s a risk of a different kind.

But each step, each use, one by one, feels like “well why shouldn’t I… just this once” 😉

I’d argue those are still before costs. You scrape the websites to get input content, you buy the hardware to do training, etc.

But now I’m just being too online 😅

Jeez, tough read. 😛

Anyway, I love community! I do! And maybe it could be that it’s impossible to have any kind of AI, and community, on this Earth at the same time. Could be, in which case I’d choose community.

But while mod communities are very cool, there is a kind of threshold to them. Maybe not gatekeeping specifically, but they are niche and technical. So, again, if I could choose between a community that makes some mod that everyone loves and supports and a cold AI mod, I’d pick the community. But I’d bet 999 out of 1000 players of a game has had some thought about how the game could be different, but isn’t setup to learn how to mod it. But I don’t think that means they don’t “deserve” a tweak, perhaps.

Anyway, I do agree with you that the way AI is being developed right now is problematic, at least in terms of concentration of power. And so these things are maybe just philosophical for now given that the ethics of building the AIs probably outweighs the ethics of the freedom it provides a videogame player.

Sorry to have upset you! 😘

I didn’t actually listen to the rant in particular, and I don’t know the band. If Musk was pitching why he should build more data centres or why people should invest in his company, yes that would be bad.

But if Musk was saying he was playing a videogame last week and he vibe-coded a mod to make the game better, I’d probably think that was the most relatable thing I’ve heard about him in a while 😛

Yeah. It also feels like the purest form of the “end user empowerment” angle. A person is playing a game, they think “I wish this game let me fly”, they ask the computer, and the computer says “sure, give me a sec. Okay now you can fly”. It’s not for someone’s job, it’s not making them more efficient, it’s just enhancing their personal bfun during a leisure activity.

Ignoring all the parts that come before that, that’s cool 😛

There are definitely levels to the ethics of AI in general and vibe-coding in particular… but I think for me mods for games you like feels like maybe the least bad? It still has issues around training and sourcing of input, and part of the associated environmental impact of training.

But on the other hand the game was already proprietary, and most modders don’t make a career out of it, and there isn’t the same kind of “maintenance” as a normal project, and a busted mod isn’t dangerous to society, so those parts of the ethics don’t apply as cleanly. And there is something nice about the idea that some random person who likes this game, and has an idea about how they’d like it even better, can tweak some other company’s game to better fit their desires.

I’ve been a professional programmer for like 20 years, but I don’t think I have the bandwidth to learn how to mod each game I like individually. I’ve never written any mod for any game, despite having made (gamejam) games before! So if we could hypothetically solve the input problem, I think people having the freedom to personalize their gaming experience from what Microsoft provides is kinda nice. But that’s obviously a big thorny “if” 😛

You bring up an excellent point! It’s not present on the chart, but we are also one of the most accepting of LGBTQIA2S+

Be excellent to each other!

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Cleaner, perhaps, but not usefully better.

I know, I know, he’s fucking with us. But I just can’t help marvel at how dumb this one is. Lake America, okay this is all America, but I guess that’s a name a lake could have, in America.

But New America? New America is in fucking America. That would be like if New York was a small part of York! Call it New West or Taco Supreme or something, but New America is basically the stupidest thing to call a region of North America. It even shortens to NA! Jesus…

Anyway, I know it’s meant to be stupid, I know. But it got me this time…

Perhaps, in a sense, it was…

A video essay I watched once made an interesting point, which was that JK named Hermione Hermione because she didn’t want any real young girls to her bullied because of the books. Basically, she thought Hermione was the worst, and made the boys only barely tolerate her because she was useful to them.

But then a bunch of Hermione-coded girls started absolutely loving the books because they saw themselves in it, and the movies cast a pretty girl instead of an “ugly” one, and suddenly JK’s “oh shit, uh, yeah… hero…” 😛

They watch in horror as, increasingly frustrated, he searches: “Jessie Bullseye”, “Jessie Horse”, “Jessie cowgirl horse”, “Jessie roundup horse”, “cowgirl redhead horsecock”

Oh! Okay that seems like a much tighter connection.

And, like, I don’t agree with the manosphere 99% of the time… but in this case sleeping with a person who said they were a CEO or whatever but actually they drive Uber doesn’t sound like sexual assault to me, so maybe this broken clock was right today. It feels like maybe one thing a bad person said in a TikTok once and just blew up as rage bait.

I mean, don’t lie about condoms or vasectomies or sexual health obviously, but other things don’t seem sexually relevant to me.