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anarchism isnt the only branch of left, similarly how libertarianism isnt the only branch of right. You guys are too confident for associating yourself with a vastly non existent ideology
Edit: Noting that I didn’t mean that they are mutually exclusive outside of social structure… You can take individual actions in a socialist society. The question is just around which is the core principle of the organisation of society.
Edit 2: to me anarchy isn’t inherently individualistic, it is just opposed to power-over social structures. You can have a voluntary socialism. Look at Chiapas, for instance.
While respecting the rights and autonomy of the individual. It is entirely about respecting individual freedom while also encouraging work together as a community.
Tell me you know nothing about Anarchist philosophy or history with explicitly saying so.
You can also be left and be right, and dumb and wise, and black and white, all simultaneously! Up is down, back is forwards, authoritarian is left!
No, left is against hierarchy
anarchism isnt the only branch of left, similarly how libertarianism isnt the only branch of right. You guys are too confident for associating yourself with a vastly non existent ideology
Schrödinger’s political chessboard
No, left is socialist (in the broad sense, opposed to individualism)
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Yea just gonna full sail disagree with you on this claim.
Many types of anarchism fit under the socialist umbrella
Yes, I agree, which would disagree with the other comment’s point that socialism inherently opposes individualism.
Interesting. Where/when are they not opposed?
Edit: Noting that I didn’t mean that they are mutually exclusive outside of social structure… You can take individual actions in a socialist society. The question is just around which is the core principle of the organisation of society.
Edit 2: to me anarchy isn’t inherently individualistic, it is just opposed to power-over social structures. You can have a voluntary socialism. Look at Chiapas, for instance.
As much as i know, anarchy is not indivualist since the entire point of anarchism should be that the community works togheter to do stuff
While respecting the rights and autonomy of the individual. It is entirely about respecting individual freedom while also encouraging work together as a community.
so its a fell good circlejerk with no framework on how to organize and overthrow capitalism. Hah
Tell me you know nothing about Anarchist philosophy or history with explicitly saying so.
Anarchism is about resolving the apparent contradictions between individual rights/responsibilities and collective rights/responsibilities.
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It’s about a community of individuals. The individual is celebrated, but in a way that’s far more akin to Mr. Rodgers (you’re special and unique just like everyone else) rather than of say a heroic society (where the ability to command attention and stand uniquely above others is valued).
An anarchist would say that you need to figure out how you can best contribute to your community in a way that fits with your unique self rather than taking away from it. It’s akin to a family, where various things need to be done and it’s up to the members of the household to figure out how to get it done in a way most associated with everyone’s wants and needs, but also in the discussion are the nice to haves like someone may grow an herb garden, while another household may decide nobody wants it enough to do it or push for it.
It’s not a binary. I’m against hierarchal class structures but I still think we need specialists making rules about shit like environmental protection.
I thought libertarians were against hierarchy