• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    i am not against changing our diet per say. i can envision a future where we eat more bugs/algae proxies. when playing cyber punk i saw an ad for pizza with “REAL peperoni crickets” or something, and wile i know it’s out there to shock the player, the more i think about it the more i embrace it.

    in this case i declare broken clock protocols, and know that this is a symptom to larger rot in society, but our current way of life was never sustainable, nor particularly healthy.

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      Meanwhile legumes: am I a joke to you?

      Miraculous nitrogen fixing nutritional powerhouses with more culinary flexibility than virtually everything else out there, and y’all are so averse to putting some plants in your mouth that you’d start talking about resorting to eating bugs.

      To be fair I do regularly take algae oil supplements I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        jesus tap dancing christ.

        the speed at which a vegan IMMEDIATELY shot me down as not good enough has to have been precognition.

        but sure, yea, whatever, beans and other plants we are already eating should probably be involved and be more prominent in our diets.

        damn!

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          Uh dude, you’re talking about eating animals. What, you think I’m gonna be like, “Yeah eat those crickets! Fuck those guys!”?

          But also, in this case I was more criticizing your dramatics about cyberpunk dystopias. Like yeah, meat is unsustainable, so of course things like this will happen. What does that leave? The stuff you should be eating more anyway.

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    9 days ago

    Damn liberals always telling you what to do.

    Conservatives just make it prohibitively expensive to do what you want to do.

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      Just wait until they start policing what those on food stamps are putting in their grocery carts again. I swear that was almost an entire genre of “reporting” for them for a while there.

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    This administration is going to accidentally encourage a ton of earth friendly behavior. Won’t offset the evil being done, but it’s kind of funny.

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        *CORNbread - don’t forget the subsidies. Those farmers know on which side their bread is buttered. While I’m at it - ethanol for fuel… it’s all to encourage homegrown solutions.

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          Do you want to know why corn is subsidized? When mexico was producing good corn at a good price many years ago, they were undercutting US cereals for livestock growth. The US basically said, fuck mexico, and just paid the farmers to grow corn in the US just enough so they could sell their corn at a slightly lower price. It devastated Mexican farmers who had built a system of selling corn to the cereal grain hungry US. My native Mexican coworker told me in great detail about that one.

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    If food is too expensive, don’t eat.

    -Republicans

    Famine makes ecconomic sense

    -Also Republicans

    Why aren’t the plebians having kids? We need more wage slaves! Maybe outlawing abortion is the solution.

    -Republicans, again

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      I was in an argument just yesterday on the “not having enough kids” subject where people were insisting that younger generations are choosing to live in “expensive places” and that they should move to “cheaper places” so they can start families. As if the idea of abandoning their lives, careers and friends to go live out in the boonies in order to provide a bare-minimum QoL for their family is going to change any dual-income-no-kids couples’ minds.

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        There are no cheap places to move. In the USA, anyway. Anywhere that has “affordable” homes has no jobs, so they’re not actually affordable. And employers are getting harder about remote work. It’s very frustrating because I would happily move to a “less expensive area” but I can’t afford it 😂

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          “Clearly, this generation knows nothing of hardship. It may not seem like it but we live in the most equitable period in the history of the US and the tools and technology available to you give you no excuse for failure. The previous generations had the Great Depression and World Wars and all you do is complain. Instead of living selfishly beyond your means, try living on a budget. You don’t need to have money to start having kids, there are people living in poverty all over the world and that’s not stopping them.”

          Obviously, just about the biggest /s I’ve ever /s’ed. These are just an example of the things people have said to me, taken more or less verbatim.

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          There’s a gap between valuing oneself and just trying to survive.

          If I valued myself, I would living around the California central coast or wine country, not North Carolina.

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    Is Trump about to give the same inadvertent boost to plant-based diets and the environment as he did for renewables?

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    Yet when Michelle Obama merely suggested that Americans eat better and exercise, the pedo GOP blew a gasket.

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      They’re all friends in DC. Its theater when they get upset with eachother so that we the people divide ourselves so they can stay in power and not be forcibly removed.

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    Good message, wrong reasoning.

    Ecologists have been telling people [from rich countries] to minimize beef consumption or drop it altogether for years, but not because of its price tag.

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      not because of its price tag

      I get what you mean, and agree, but want to point out that at least in a sense, it is because of the price tag: the cost to the environment and to others, in the form of water use, land use, carbon and methane emissions, etc. Internalizing those external costs would make beef cost more money at the point of sale.

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    LOL, she was soooo close for a moment, I guess. She’s still adhering to protein mythologies, it seems. It’s 2026. Do people still not know?

    But I find it funny that the cons clutched their pearls so hard over Michelle suggesting kids get more exercise and eat vegetables. And now it’s a con that is depriving them of beef and telling them to make do.

    I thought the liberals were going to make conservative eat bugs and live in a shoebox and own nothing?

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      They are hypocrites, they don’t care and neither does the electorate. They would have dragged her regardless of what she did or said. Remember they were making a commotion about a fucking tan suit.

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        LOL, beef tallow.

        That reminds me, after reading the book Protein:

        I suppose she might have been able to promote cheaper alternatives like whey for people wringing their hands over their proteinmaxxing.

        But since that made a journey from waste product to being sold as a health food product, I suppose that price was jacked up, too.

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    “But if it is too expensive — unlike fuel, Benny — you can eat chicken, pork, salmon, eggs."

    “Let them eat salmon.” LOL.

    So there are alternative proteins. That’s a free market situation. But there is no alternative to the petro-state. Doing less driving is communism.

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      If it free market it I completely cut off my consumption of ultimately useless Amazon junk, thus helping to produce less CO2 emissions from the manufacturing of useless Chinese Amazon junk?

      Nah, that’s commie shit too.

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        It’s something that Marie Antoinette was accused of saying when French peasants were starving just before the French Revolution. Consensus is that she never actually did but it’s a good little anecdote for rich people being blissfully unaware of real life.

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      Well, she didn’t tell them to eat rice and beans, which would have been too woke, I guess. Even if much smarter on a whole lot of levels.

      She pointed them at other animal foods, or as become the new fashion, “protein”.