• chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    24 days ago

    Well IMO that means this Twitter asshole’s attempt at trolling is a success, which is a shame

      • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        24 days ago

        What I mean by trolling here is, deliberately inciting other people to have the desired argument amongst themselves. OOP isn’t affected or aware of anything we say, it’s completely one-sided.

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          24 days ago

          I understand what you mean and appreciate it. You’re right, it’s not particularly productive to get into it in comment sections.

          Aside from that, the overwhelming amount of casual sexism that’s openly tolerated and upvoted on Lemmy is astonishing sometimes.

          These types of posts see a lot of men chiming in to say what they find attractive, what women should do to be attractive to them. It’s annoying. I’m aware that I annoy those men by saying something, but oh well.

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            24 days ago

            Have you ever considered that maybe you’re just not as smart as you seem to think you are? Or that people may not always agree with you, and that’s okay?

            Neither observation has anything to do with your gender by the way, though I have a sneaking suspicion you won’t see it that way.

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              24 days ago

              I’ve never claimed to be smart, just brash and strongly opinionated.

              I’m ok with people not agreeing with me. That doesn’t mean I have to be quiet in the face of sexism.

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                23 days ago

                There’s being strongly opinionated, and then there’s acting like a stubborn, arrogant ass. The fact that just about everyone in this thread disagrees with you does not exactly reflect positively on your argument. And yet you continue to double down.

                For the record, I do somewhat understand the point you’re trying to make. Maybe this was not the post for me to speak on what I consider to be attractive, but I really didn’t give it that much thought. So fair play for calling me out on that to an extent.

                But I truly believe intention matters. If a man simply stating what he finds attractive about a woman is enough for you to think he’s sexist, I guess you’re entitled to your opinion. That you would equate me to someone who compares women wearing makeup to sexual assault is completely unhinged. I genuinely feel sorry for you if that’s how you go through life.

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                  23 days ago

                  Velma is calling out a concept she finds problematic and not any specific person, and others are over here calling her unintelligent, an “arrogant ass,” and a “wokescold.” And in the same breath, you’re saying she’s the one personally attacking people. I think you’ve contradicted your own argument by name-calling.

                  It’s okay to disagree, but let’s try to stay civil while we do that.

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                    23 days ago

                    Honestly, that’s fair. I was feeling pretty frustrated toward the end of the argument, but you’re right that I shouldn’t have stopped to name-calling.

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                  23 days ago

                  The fact that just about everyone in this thread disagrees with you does not exactly reflect positively on your argument

                  There were a lot of people who disagreed with me about 14 year olds being unable to consent to sex with adults, too. That doesn’t make me wrong.

                  Unasked for commentary on how a woman looks is unnecessary and presumptuous. Who gives a fuck what any individual thinks about how THIS woman should present herself? The only thing that matters is what SHE wants to look like.

                  Misogyny and sexism is on the rise again and this kind of casual sexism goes hand in hand with it.

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                    23 days ago

                    Whatever, I can tell I’m at a dead end with trying to get through to you. This is a Lemmy post, not your first year gender studies class… it’s really not that deep. Maybe get over yourself and touch some grass.