“welp”
Not long ago, I found a $100 bill at our local gas station.
I picked it up by the trash can, figuring it was probably a church fake.
It wasn’t a fake at all, it was a real $100
I make point to check by those pumps everytime I pass by that gas station…
It’s not called Fiat currency for no reason. There’s lots of rumors of a global switch to state backed crypto coins or purely digital currency. That way the normal people can’t hide any money, their money can be turned off unlike cash.
We already have mostly digital currency.
Money is created when a bank creates a loan, by starting with nothing and then splitting that nothing into a credit in one account (the borrower’s checking account, usually) and a debit in another (the borrower’s loan balance). From there, most transactions are digital where an ACH transfer or similar results in some numbers being subtracted from one account and added to another.
Almost all of this happens on computers, and even before computers it just happened literally on a paper ledger, with paper checks.
You might ask, “wait where does the bank get its money from to be able to allow money to be withdrawn or transferred to another bank?” If the bank doesn’t have the liquidity to do so, it can always borrow money from other banks or the government, with the last resort in the United States being the federal reserve banks, who by the way also print all the paper currency. So having that backstop is important for regular banks to have the power to create money, but the actual creation of money happens digitally to begin with, regardless of whether the bank later needs to distribute paper bills or borrow from the federal reserve.
Well only central banks can create it out of thin air. Normal banks lend other people’s money (fractional reserve banking)
Not exactly. The central banks acting as a lender of last resort encourage the commercial banks to create money in this way, but be assured that the actual creation occurs whether the bank needs to borrow money or not. The definition of money supply looks to the balances in checking accounts, and creating and disbursing a loan increases the balance in a checking account (while simultaneously increasing the negative balance in a loan account, but loan balances don’t shrink the money supply), and as that money is spent it increases balances in someone else’s checking account.
Not how it works. a bank can’t just magically issue loans in a vacuum without caring about liquidity, because the second a borrower spends that money, the bank has to cough up real central bank reserves to settle with another institution or go broke.
So the question becomes, does the money get created when it is put in a deposit account balance, or when it gets spent outside the bank for the first time?
The textbook answer is that the money is created as soon as the deposit balance is created, not when the account holder spends it down enough to where the bank needs to borrow to maintain liquidity. It’s how the Fed counts M1, for example.
The bank’s need to actually run a viable business, and central bank regulations, prevents it from going nuts with this, but that’s beside the point of what I’m saying: a bank doesn’t need the central bank’s permission or approval to create money by extending loans. In the aggregate, central bank policy affects the way all the different banks do this, but the end result is that the banks can create a shitload more money than there are reserves (and the reserves don’t need to be physical currency, either, since they can just be balances in accounts with other financial institutions).
That’s not how any of it works though.
It’s how all of it works. Money is just balances on double-entry bookkeeping, and the paper currency essentially is a piece of paper that the bearer of that paper is good for moving the balances in that ledger system.
And almost all of those ledgers are now digital.
By that logic any bank could grow arbitrarily large by just underwriting more loans. Then there’d be no competition between any of them and my job would be so much easier.
Yes, the limit to commercial bank lending is creditworthiness and default risk (because the bank is left holding the bag when a borrower doesn’t repay), and the cost of maintaining liquidity (the bank can borrow against the loans it owns, but it may cost a higher interest rate than they’d earn on the cash they’ve lent out). This paper lays it out pretty clearly, and is basically the near unanimous view among macroeconomists.
Or, in some regulatory environments, banks are required to maintain a minimum fractional reserve, which limits the total amount of loans it can lend out with its underlying assets.
But the money is created when the loans are created, and destroyed when the loans are repaid. The other stuff behind the scenes to give the system stability is important, but doesn’t actually create or destroy money.
Exactly. The bank can borrow, for which they need collateral, which sufficiently proves that what you’re saying is wrong.
They have to manage their balance sheet actively, and your original statement was in the lines of ‘it’s all made up and they have infinite equity supply’.
Read my original comment again. I explicitly talk about banks borrowing to maintain liquidity. It’s an important limit on their ability to create money, and nobody said anything about infinite money supply.
But it doesn’t change the fact that the act of money creation is caused by a bank creating a loan, and the money comes into being without a single physical act of manufacturing: it happens on a computer, and before computers it happened on paper.
So without claiming that money was unlimited, I did point out that money itself is overwhelningly digital in the modern age. And the limits don’t come from any physical constraints.
Benjamin Franklin smirked like that in his photo because he always knew.
Fucking trash shit coin. I lost my ass on this too.
The only stable meme coin is gold
I prefer Joules myself
Gold to usd lost 30% since 2013
I thought gold was immune to all this because there was a more less fixed amount
Not how economics works. The price of gold fluxuates wildly because demand for it fluxuates wildly, because people keep gambling on the value of gold.
Down 50% already?
I’ve got a crisp $50 in my pocket. I’ll trade you for it.
That $50 is only worth $25 in goods or services.
I’m happy to pay you $25 for it!
Those $25 are only worth $12,50 in goods or services.
