Omaha police agreed this week to stop carrying gloves that can deliver electric shocks to students in the halls of Nebraska’s largest public school district.

The decision affecting most Omaha middle and high schools came after The Associated Press first revealed Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s plan to give officers the gloves, which are known as G.L.O.V.E.s or Generated Low Output Voltage Emitters. The devices have also been used in recent years by some jails.

Omaha Superintendent Matthew Ray requested that police working in the schools, known as school resource officers, stop using the gloves. Omaha Police agreed.

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      For those who don’t spend all their time online, “ahh” is a substitute (or euphemism?) for “ass”. Kids have taken to say things like “ahh” instead of “ass” and “unaliving” for “suicide”, and “funk” for “fuck”, “epistomegacy” for “active clown threat”, “rat intestine” for “rat intestine” and who even knows what else!

      Well I for one am sick and tired of it and that’s all I have to say on the matter.

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          eh costa rica is pretty okay

          the police pretty much only goes after shoplifters and drug smugglers and the government doesnt have the budget to be a surveillance/suppression state if they tried

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            Fair enough, it’s all on a curve I suppose. If I’ve gotten anything out of the strife I’m seeing in the world, it’s a appreciation for every blessing I can count, while I can

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    Parents who support this support it for “urban” schools. They don’t believe it will ever be used in their white, suburban public schools.

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    They shouldn’t have shock gloves in the first place.

    In fact, I will go so far to say that police should be unarmed by default. They can carry a baton, but a remote operator has to give the okay to unlock the baton for extension. A squad car can have a shotgun with rubber slugs, but the trunk also has to be remotely unlocked. Police should also receive permission from an operator for turning off their camera.

    Bluntly, the police cannot be trusted with power.

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      Public site, 100% uptime, every weapons pull listed in real time. They put those gloves on, it’s noted, they pull the baton out, it’s listed. They draw their guns it’s listed. Transparency would be a good start. Body camera footage should also be available to the people in the videos automatically in identification.

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      Insane comment. What is the equipment even necessary for with that limited access?

      Perhaps that is your point, but it might as well be people deployed from a location rather than onsite personnel.

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        There are many parts of America where people - and by consequence, officers - are thinly spread out. Having potential access to firepower is sometimes important for the occasional bear or person who is shooting at signs.

        In cases where martial power is needed, contacting people is a thing that should be done by default. Having a potential ambulance in the wings, social workers and other police on notice, and so on, is good practice.

        We now live in a age where ships at sea can have reliable access to the internet. Society should take advantage of that to ensure that police officers are not able to harm their communities. We do that, by making the powers of an officer conditional - that they are recorded at all times for infractions, prevent them from instinctively reaching for a gun, and making them aware that brutality isn’t an crutch that they can rely upon.

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          I thought that a platform often interested in self hosting would loathe the idea of remotely activated equipment that’s often getting used in the moment, like a remotely activated baton (lol).

          My take is that you either trust it with people in the field or you don’t.

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        If they can deploy a hundred thousand multi vector public surveillance cameras in a matter of months almost escaping public notice, they can invent a bunch of devices to monitor the cops just as easily. To hell with them.

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    Turns out if you call all cops bastards enough, the ones who aren’t just leave or don’t sign up in the first place because they don’t want to be hated, leaving only those who don’t mind or enjoy the hate.

    Eventually the actual percentage will hit 100%.

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      What a hilariously stupid take. The cops have earned every ounce of hate that they get, and then some. How’s that boot taste, buddy?

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        Sorry but I don’t have time to waste on people who start a comment with

        What a hilariously stupid take.

        (apart from the obvious - calling them out for their bad-faith tactics)

        In the future, make comments of substance rather than waste time with “I disagree and you are dumb.”

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      You know the somewhat older phrase, “one bad apple spoils the bunch”?

      So spoiled fruit actually release ethylene, which is the feedstock for polyethylene plastic, and also acts as a plant hormone. Ethylene will speed up the spoilage of the rest of the barrel. That’s why a bad apple can spoil the bunch.

      Point is, it’s not the public calling them bastards that makes the good ones quit. The entire system of policing is designed to either break the good ones or force them out.

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        I’m aware of the clipped phrase and the full phrase, yes. I’d bet most people are here. Did you know Steve Buscemi was a firefighter during 9/11?

        People aren’t fruits and they aren’t stored in baskets, nor do fruits listen to public opinion.

        Is it so hard for you to believe that good people unsure of joining or not will choose not to because the hate isn’t worth it to them? Is it so hard for you to believe that someone fighting the good fight from within gives up because they know no matter what they do they’ll be hated?

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          I think someone that feels a genuine calling towards protecting the public at any cost to themselves doesn’t give a fuck.

          And that’s what a cop should be. Someone who disregards their own safety and wellbeing in favor of the people they protect.

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            Yes, we all wish cops would be paragons of virtue and self-sacrifice we learned about from comic books.

            Practically speaking? Don’t let the Perfect be the enemy of the Good.

            If you do find this mythical Perfect Person, you go ahead and encourage them to be a cop if they want to be one; you don’t tell them that they’re a bastard.

            Further, what have you done lately to try to protect those Perfect People and keep them cops? Do you advocate for police unions and legal funds to protect them from abuse from their chains of command?

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              You’re right. Sounds like we should get rid of them all. I can support that. Genuinely can’t think of a single reason to keep them around.

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                You’re right. Sounds like we should get rid of them all. I can support that.

                “If we can’t have a perfect meal, we should not eat.”

                Genuinely can’t think of a single reason to keep them around.

                Because prayer is an ineffective strategy to stop school shootings and all manner of other nasty behavior some humans get up to.

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      Ah yes, it’s the peoples fault that the police are hateful. Amazing take. We are too mean to them, it’s our fault, we deserve it. Truly a masterpiece of human thought. Thank you for sharing.

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        That’s an oversimplification to mischaracterize my point, but if you’ve decided to nope out of critical thought on the matter, I wouldn’t stop you if I could.

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      It’s so there’s someone there to easily arrest black kids for doing normal kid stuff.

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      Absolutely weird, but the situation probably isn’t exactly like what you’re envisioning. Outside of a few notoriously violent/“gang activity” regions, they’re not regular staff - there will be a couple of School Resource Officers (yeah, really what they’re called) for an entire district, and they will float around to the various schools on a schedule (ex: my comically awful highschool had one stop by every two weeks).

      They’re also there almost entirely to deal with incredibly tedious administrative tasks that students never see - things like truancy cases, monitoring parental custody orders, coordinating public risk management, following up on teacher concerns about abuse, monitoring sentence diversions, deeply unglamorous but fairly important things like that. The cliche’d idea of them “stopping school shooters” has never been what SROs are for despite what they may claim their role is (uvalde utterly debunked that pigmyth…). And while the popular image of police “raiding lockers” searching for drugs is absolutely based on real events, it’s a pretty dated meme at this point; mass “dragnet” searches like that have been repeatedly ruled unconstitutional (I haven’t heard of one happening in years), and very few highschools even have student lockers anymore.

      Excessive force like using these “tazer gloves” is just yet another thread in the greater tapestry of the US’ issues with policing, which can be boiled down to two major issues: First, that the police have been used as the catchall for tasks that really shouldn’t be their job, and second that those interdisciplinary tasks have been given to a group that is worryingly easily infiltrated by fascists. The first point is a lot more addressable than the second, but as several regions have started shifting from the police there’s been dramatic improvement in the fascist problems as well, and among the most successful have been replacing SROs with Limited LEOs (essentially social workers with very restricted legal enforcement powers, who exist entirely separately from the police). Really, it’s a very outdated concept and absolutely is not a role the police should have ever been used for.

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      Stopping fights, looking for drugs or weapons, giving kids a head start on a life full of imprisonment; you know, the same safety regulations every sane nation would have 🙄 Growing up with parts of my childhood in the US private and public educational system, it became very clear very quick that the cops didn’t really give a single shit about me or saving my life if something happened. They were there to ‘keep an eye on the troubled, inner-city kids’ i.e. “scare and threaten the minority* kids”

      *I say minority but my school was actually pretty diverse, all things considered, though the black kids definitely had a slim majority

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        No, no, to permit school shooters to go unimpeded. Uvalde could have had good samaritans intervene, if the police didn’t block them from attempting to rescue kids.

        Police are fucking useless 95% of the time.

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    This is why phones are banned In schools. Otherwise we’d have video of cops tasing studnrts with a weapon straight out of a Ratchet and Clank game

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      Important to note that it’s typically violence against people who can’t really push back without risking getting killed.
      It’s time to make bullies afraid again, but I don’t know how without starting a total escalation.

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      Nothing left? Brother it had and has nothing else.

      It was started on the principles of “I moved here and now I own the land because god told me so, now stand still while I genocide your entire nationality”

      Moved to “I own you because someone brought you here on a boat and I need someone to work the fields.”

      Moved to “You may have civil rights but we make all the drugs and write the laws”

      Moved to “Be free and happy, go do acid and don’t look too closely at the vague yet menacing government agents wiretapping your homes, they are here for your safety”

      Moved to “Serial killers are everywhere (don’t look too closely at them, either. Dont want you seeing their badges)”

      Moved to “We need agents everywhere watching everything, and Guantanamos in multiple locations because terrurists.”

      Its a long line of bloody murder stretching all the way back to colonialism (and beyond!)

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        Exactly! It’s never been anything else. The Europeans who first came there were narcissistic and racist sociopaths and it’s all been that since then.

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          America has preserved European values - more specifically 17th century European values such as racism, imperialism and the whole “might is right and a ‘superior’ race genociding an ‘inferior’ race to take their shit is absolutelly normal and fine”.

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            Lmao ah yes, thank you for clarifying that it’s specifically 17th century europe, I was really worried someone might get all confused and think that modern europe has a problem with racist imperialism. No no, that’s just america.

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              Please point out the part of my post were I wrote that modern Europe doesn’t have a problem with racist imperialism.

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                Uhm… That wasn’t what you did, nor what I called out? So no, but I will say that trying to reframe criticism like that is a kinda dodgy tactic (if intentional).

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        face

        That’s a strange way to spell gun.

        That thing that make you strong and manly and AMERICAN.

        That, and the implied threat of violence because someone on the internet doesn’t agree with your opinion of how great America is?

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      Racism is so American that when you protest it, people think you are protesting America.

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          It’s not human trait at all. No child is born racist, they’re taught that.

          Which you’re implying that it’s a natutal human trait and therefore somehow acceptable on some level.

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          seems more pervasive here, plus the country was built on the back of racism, indigenious people being decimated, and slaves from africa.

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      This was an example of American corruption. A school official probably has a friend who is involved with the shock glove company and got kick backs for buying weapons to use on children.

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      It’s also into sex and drugs. Not as much rock 'n roll as you might hope, though.

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      then give it back. wear your own shock gloves and give the school cops a pat on the back fo ‘keeping kids safe’ or whatever it is they do when they are attacking parents from trying to save their kids

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      Don’t forget the gambling and the grifting and the cornering of technology markets

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    Officers were expected to give warning before using the gloves and then touch the person for up to 15 seconds while the electric shock was delivered, the statement said.

    According to the manual, these things (the Gen 5 gloves) are discharging 324–362V at 0.7–1.2A and the Gen 4s 210–380V at 0.9–1.5A.

    That’s around half a kW for you folks keeping track at home. Better hope little Timmy’s heatlh class is teaching him what a regular sinus rhythm is.

    I hope any officer who uses that on a child gets a prostate exam with a G.L.O.V.E. equipped.

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    Why does this country keep worshipping a cruel and unnecessarily violent police force in every corner of its society? You’d think enough regular folks have had a bad enough experience to want to reign it in over time.

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      I absolutely hate cops and have had horrible experiences with them my entire life. I don’t understand this cop worship either they’re always the dumbest most abusive people you knew growing up.