Omaha police agreed this week to stop carrying gloves that can deliver electric shocks to students in the halls of Nebraska’s largest public school district.

The decision affecting most Omaha middle and high schools came after The Associated Press first revealed Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s plan to give officers the gloves, which are known as G.L.O.V.E.s or Generated Low Output Voltage Emitters. The devices have also been used in recent years by some jails.

Omaha Superintendent Matthew Ray requested that police working in the schools, known as school resource officers, stop using the gloves. Omaha Police agreed.

  • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    3 days ago

    You know the somewhat older phrase, “one bad apple spoils the bunch”?

    So spoiled fruit actually release ethylene, which is the feedstock for polyethylene plastic, and also acts as a plant hormone. Ethylene will speed up the spoilage of the rest of the barrel. That’s why a bad apple can spoil the bunch.

    Point is, it’s not the public calling them bastards that makes the good ones quit. The entire system of policing is designed to either break the good ones or force them out.

    • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      3 days ago

      I’m aware of the clipped phrase and the full phrase, yes. I’d bet most people are here. Did you know Steve Buscemi was a firefighter during 9/11?

      People aren’t fruits and they aren’t stored in baskets, nor do fruits listen to public opinion.

      Is it so hard for you to believe that good people unsure of joining or not will choose not to because the hate isn’t worth it to them? Is it so hard for you to believe that someone fighting the good fight from within gives up because they know no matter what they do they’ll be hated?

      • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        I think someone that feels a genuine calling towards protecting the public at any cost to themselves doesn’t give a fuck.

        And that’s what a cop should be. Someone who disregards their own safety and wellbeing in favor of the people they protect.

        • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          12
          ·
          3 days ago

          Yes, we all wish cops would be paragons of virtue and self-sacrifice we learned about from comic books.

          Practically speaking? Don’t let the Perfect be the enemy of the Good.

          If you do find this mythical Perfect Person, you go ahead and encourage them to be a cop if they want to be one; you don’t tell them that they’re a bastard.

          Further, what have you done lately to try to protect those Perfect People and keep them cops? Do you advocate for police unions and legal funds to protect them from abuse from their chains of command?

          • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 days ago

            You’re right. Sounds like we should get rid of them all. I can support that. Genuinely can’t think of a single reason to keep them around.

            • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              edit-2
              3 days ago

              You’re right. Sounds like we should get rid of them all. I can support that.

              “If we can’t have a perfect meal, we should not eat.”

              Genuinely can’t think of a single reason to keep them around.

              Because prayer is an ineffective strategy to stop school shootings and all manner of other nasty behavior some humans get up to.

              • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 days ago

                Yeah tbh I’d rather starve than eat something full of broken glass.

                Lemme know when cops become an effective strategy to stop school shootings, or any other nasty behaviors lol.

                • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  3 days ago

                  Yeah tbh I’d rather starve than eat something full of broken glass.

                  You’re not understanding the metaphor. We’re all subject to law enforcement. You can either move to improve the “meal” or just accept whatever you get.

                  Lemme know when cops become an effective strategy to stop school shootings, or any other nasty behaviors lol.

                  You asked for a single reason. They do stop some.

                  • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    You know, one thing I never understood about fantasy settings where stuff is around for “thousands of years”, is that in reality, something that has been around for less than 200 years can be considered eternal by someone unwilling to think about it.

        • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          3 days ago

          Thank you for bringing some levity to what is otherwise an obnoxious conversation where I am surrounded by people unwilling to discuss something they pretend to care about in good faith.