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Karmanopoly@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 15 hours ago

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The Vancouver Police

Karmanopoly@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 15 hours ago
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    Trying to combat drug addiction through policing has been proven ineffective time and time again. You may want to rethink that one.

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      Came to say this! Drug addicts need help, not jail. Sure, if they commit a crime police should be involved, but it’s not going to cure their addiction!

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        Doing drugs is a crime tho.

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          This guy reminds teachers they forgot to give out homework…

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            I mean if you want to get specific what I really want is to remind police that doing drugs is illegal and they should focus on busting those people…instead of kids having fun on scooters

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              14 hours ago

              Why is doing drugs illegal?

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                In the US it’s so they can give black people felonies for being black so they can’t vote.

                That’s literally what started the war on drugs. Well, blacks and hippies.

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                  This is also why alcohol, which is a way more harmful drug to others than all of the illegal drugs[1], is legal.

                  [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21036393/

                  Findings: MCDA modelling showed that heroin, crack cocaine, and metamfetamine were the most harmful drugs to individuals (part scores 34, 37, and 32, respectively), whereas alcohol, heroin, and crack cocaine were the most harmful to others (46, 21, and 17, respectively). Overall, alcohol was the most harmful drug (overall harm score 72), with heroin (55) and crack cocaine (54) in second and third places.

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                Because they won’t share with me :(

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                14 hours ago

                Because of the law

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                  It seems you’re stuck on Step 4 in Kohlberg’s Stages of Moral Development:

                  Do you mind me asking how old you are?

                  edit: never mind it says it in the meme you created.

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                  “Drugs are illegal because drugs are illegal”

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              Kids having fun on scooters doing illegal things.

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                One is a felony the other a misdemeanor

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                  Fun fact: Vancouver is in Canada, and in Canada there’s no such thing as a felony or a misdemeanor.

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                    This guy lawyers

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              riding scooter at 12 seems to be illegal too in vancouver, and people have fun on drugs too, so seems to me both things are pretty much interchangeable in your argument

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              Busting drug addicts will do ZERO to help the drug and crime problems. Even law enforcers will tell you that.

              Those problems are so much more complex, and require fundamental reforms in social policies, mental healthcare, education, youth programmes, city planning etc. And then there’s the issue of dealing with the gangs, smugglers and foreign organized syndicates bringing the stuff into the country.

              Kids driving recklessly on scooters (which are often modified) are:

              A) A danger to themselves

              B) A danger to pedestrians they could crash into

              C) A serious danger to cars that swerve to avoid them when they go out on the main road.

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          Being this stupid should be illegal.

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          So was giving shelter to undesirables in Nazi Germany. Laws are not inherently moral.

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          Putting someone in timeout maybe works for three year olds but it doesn’t work for adults even if you hold them there 1000 times longer. Restitution and rehabilitation is a significantly more effective solution and results in much lower recidivism. Only reason to lock someone in a box is if they present a significant danger to the public, and that’s not to punish them, but to protect others.

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          So is what the kids are doing. So…?

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          No is not

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            The temporary decriminalization of doing drugs in British Columbia expired in January 2026

            So doing illicit drugs like crack or fentanyl on the streets is currently illegal again.

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              Again i said NO IS NOT

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      This isn’t new either. A song was written about it 25 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg

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        love me some oldschool SOAD songs

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      Also the cops handing out traffic tickets, and the cops doing narcotics investigations are different people.

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      I read it as they are both bad things the police enjoys, but seeing OPs comments I don’t think that was the intent.

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      If you arrest the users they’ll give up the dealers

      That’s policing 101

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        That’s copaganda 101

        FTFY

        Treat it like the public health issue it is, not something to involve the judicial/carceral systems

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        You’re stupid

        I want you to know that, but I want you to feel it, where it really counts

        You’re a shitty person because of your stupidity

        You could just be stupid, but you’re that awful combination of stupid and shitty

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        Arresting drug addicts in the war on drugs is part of how the US ended up with 25% of the world’s prison population. End result? Same amount of drugs.

        Criminalizing drug use does literally nothing except lead to the death of democracy.

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          Your percentage is off.

          Recent sources put US prison population at ~2 million, with about that much under other supervision conditions.

          US population is at ~342.75 million people.

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            Good call, got some wires crossed. The US contributes to 25% of the entire global prison population

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        And is ineffective. Didn’t you watch The Wire?

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          No I watched breaking bad

          They went after the one drug user (badger) and eventually it led all the way up to the Heisenberg guy

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            dumbest comments I’ve seen all day are all from you

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              I’ve had this user tagged as “anti-science troll” for ages.

              Last time was from just a comment chain under a post but it was just as bad as this whole thing.

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              I was just thinking the same thing.

              The farther down this thread I go the dumber they get

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              I’m just amazed how many people are on the side of the drug addicts

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                It’s almost like drug addicts are still people who deserve to be treated like people. Throwing them in jail and subjecting them to police brutality does not help anyone except the fake numbers game of the police. If you really want to help people with addictions you have to be willing to work with them and treat the problems at the source rather than resort to punitive measures for no reasons.

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                I’m amazed there is still people that think prohibition works.

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                addicts need help not prison

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            Do you not remember his name?

            • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
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              Say my name

              • Scratch@sh.itjust.works
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                Mr. White?

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                  SCIENCE! YEAH!

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              Ya Heisenberg

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        No no no. This is just building a prison pipeline.

      • marcos@lemmy.world
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        That widely known to not work that way.

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        Ok bootlicker

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