Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was personally and explicitly warned that Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was planning a major attack roughly 10 days before the October 7 massacre, but dismissed the threat and did not alert his security chiefs, according to a shocking new Haaretz report.
The revelations come from research for an upcoming book Hostages: 843 Days of Abandonment, written by journalists Shlomi Eldar and Ruth Yuval, who writes for Haaretz.
Color me shocked.
In other news: things dipped in water become wet!
A good level headed take is presented here: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/failure-at-the-fence/
HAMAS was heavily funded through Qatar by Israel. They are literally funding different terrorist groups in order to create needed conflicts to justify takeover of land and invasions. They need it for The Greater Israel project.
They will also try to create biblical events through mass destruction in order to harness world wide control through mayhem, as that’s their currency. They have no morals, no empathy and consider everyone else to be cattle for slaughter. They will spill as much blood as possible in order to get total control over the world. They want to see all nations bow to them, but they will never have it.
This is Liberal Zionist cope.
Fuck politics, fuck liberals, fuck democrats, fuck republicans and whatever else there is. Etiquettes created to combat truth. You will deny what your eyes see and your ears hear for whatever they will lay in front of you. The same ones that massacred millions during USSR created todays Israel, same people that created the Nazi movement, the same ones that funded CIA, funded Mossad. Those are the same people that overtook US and undermined it. They are the ones fighting freedom and any possible chance of prosperity for humanity.
Don’t quote me on it but iirc there were even several barracks worth of soldiers told not to post to even basic security positions for the music festival that was happening that day.
Israel wants “Greater Israel”, and will use whatever means to get it, from the river to the sea.
HAMAS is sworn to destroy Israel and will use whatever means to do so, from the river to the sea.
l could believe this, it’s fully plausible that October 7 was a trap. But, that trap was inevitable and could not be avoided by HAMAS, because HAMAS must attack. They will attack again …and of course Israel will respond, and use any attack as justification to grab as much territory as they can (with a ten-fold response).
They both have the same goals, they are locked in.
Not suprised.
I hate it when conspiracy theorists are proven right. It fuels the flames for so much chaos.
Next we’ll find out the CIA really can read your thoughts and tinfoil hats really do prevent that.
They don’t need to directly read your thoughts when they can channel it into a specific line.
Metal Gear Solid predicted this in that govies and other authoritarian tribes will attempt to ‘not to control content, but create context’.
They figure they have the river of life mapped out, when in reality they only have a nice paddle that they are smashing into the water to row the boat of humanity.
If the conspiracy theorists aren’t at least sometimes right they would be fully ignorable
Too true, hence the aforementioned chaos.
What are you trying to say?
What part of what I said was unclear?
The part that you imply that Netanyahu knowing about 2023-10-07 was a conspiracy theory
… what do you think “conspiracy theory” means? It’s not a disparaging term.
Is that why my comments are being received controversially? People are doing mental gymnastics to label me a Netanyahu supporter?
Old news, but hopefully it catches this time.
They basically let Hamas attack and take hostages in order to have an excuse for the the current an ongoing genocide.
hes doing this to stay out of jail himself they were very close to prosecuting him.
Are you saying he orchestrated the genocide to draw attention away from other stuff he was being prosecuted for? (Sorry, I’m dumb and can often infer the wrong thing from ambiguous text.)
Here is what I was able to find about criminal charges against him
There’s a bit more nuance, but yes, that’s exactly it.
The nuance being: The Palestinian Authority (West Bank leadership) was this close to reaching a well designed agreement with Israel, which would bring peace to that part of the region.
Hamas in Gaza saw that as a threat to their authoritarian rule because if West Bank can have peace, why does Gaza have to still fully oppose Israel?
Iran saw that as a threat because Israel that’s not hitting and getting hit on all sides is an Israel that can become even stronger and fully dominate the region.
Netanyahu and his clique saw that as a threat because peace with Palestine would mean that Israeli people start looking into his corruption and mismanagement.
So, Iran threw a bunch of money and intel at Hamas, Hamas planned the October 7th attack, Netanyahu ordered the military to allow the attack to happen. Everybody’s happy. Except the civilians, of course, but let’s not get civilian lives getting in the way of politics, right?
It was my conspiracy theory from the beginning
The Mossad knows what I ate for breakfast and didn’t know this?
They were able to infiltrate into Hezbollah so deeply that they could control their supply chain, fake a whole pager company from scratch and hide a remotely controlled bomb in every communication device, yet could not have any evidence of the terrorist attack planned by hundreds of people?
And by coincidence they had the excuse to start the purge and genocide?
I’m not much of a conspiracy believer but Netanyahu said multiple times on camera that Hamas is good for Israel and given how surveiled Gaza was the theory that Israel allowed the attack is very convincing.
Who benefits most from that Oct. 7th attack?
On that note, as someone who laughed off all the “9/11 was an inside job” conspiracy theorists at the time, who benefitted the most from 9/11?
it’s kept bibi and the right wing in power. but who’s to say, maybe he’s a rational and honest actor <ghack>
one day israelis will wake and depose him, and russians will overthrow putin, and we’ll impeach and imprison trump…
I can dream yo…
They’re all too brainwashed to care.
Course he did. It was probably in the monthly status update from Hamas.
If this is true, who is the real enemy of Israel?
Itself.
All goyim?
The Bush Administration were well aware that something was up just before 9/11, too, and deliberately ignored it, hoping to use it as a pretense for a war in Iraq, so Dick Cheney’s Halliburton could take over the Iraqi oilfields. There are multiple documented instances where warnings were given directly to the highest levels, and literally NOTHING was done to investigate or prepare for it.
They probably thought there would be a car bomb or shooting or something, and we got 9/11.
It wasn’t just 9/11. There’s nuance to what they do that gets lost in translation. The most 1-to-1 for me would be Pearl Harbor.
No one from the US planned the Pearl Harbor attack, but it is believed by some that Roosevelt made policy decisions that goaded Japan into attacking the US as a means of gaining support for entering WWII.
No one in the US administration planned 9/11. What is today framed as incompetence was clearly stonewalling from people in key places of power to allow an attack to manifest. It’s been years and I don’t remember everything I’ve ever heard that’s been debunked. I do remember the head of the CIA refusing to send intel to the FBI was a big sticking point. I think I remember there being a drill going on that day about hijacked planes that made communication confused. I still don’t get why building 7 went down, or why some claimed it was almost totally empty that day.
So too with Israel. HAMAS has been allowed to fester in Palestine by the top Israeli officials, going so far as to assassinate more moderate candidates and even smuggle in money to fund the organization. Israel has for a long time had what is considered one of the most sophisticated and robust information networks in the world. There is no way that at least grumbles of this attack were unknown.
I grew up through 9/11. I saw what patriotism does to people and what leaders use it for.
They probably thought there would be a car bomb or shooting or something, and we got 9/11.
It’s sickening to consider how many holders of defense stocks and positions of power were likely “pleasantly surprised” by this development.
He did nothing because he wanted to start genocide.
He did nothing because he wanted to
startcontinue genocide.It’ been going on since the 1970s, it’s only intensified as of late.
He wanted any excuse to forestall the corruption trials for him and his wife. A forever war / genocide worked out perfectly for him.
Bingo. It’s like 9/11 if you would believe it.
I’ve heard the same for pearl harbor (if you’d believe it).
I think American military knew the Japanese were planning on attacking, but underestimated the severity of what the attack would be.
The Americans knew what was going on before the Japanese ambassador did, because they had wiretapped the embassy, and their codebreakers decoded the message before the Japanese diplomatic workers did.
If 9/11 was about a music fest or other youth gather, I’d believe Bush or Cheney could have had full knowledge. This is just different enough.
It really was isreals 9/11.
Except for the potential that Israelis knew about that event in advance, too.
“Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US” is a President’s Daily Brief prepared by the Central Intelligence Agency that was given to U.S. president George W. Bush on Monday, August 6, 2001. The brief warned, 36 days before the September 11 attacks, of terrorism threats from Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, including “patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for a hijacking” of U.S. aircraft.
Plus the fighter jets that could have intercepted the planes were conveniently not there.
Not saying they orchestrated it, but if you think Cheney wasn’t above letting a few thousand citizens die for massive defense spending, I have a bridge to sell you.
if you think Cheney wasn’t above letting a few thousand citizens die for massive defense spending
The two flights that hit the Twin Towers were as unexpected as anything we’ve experienced since Pearl Harbor. I don’t think Cheney “allowed” them through. I think the national bureaucracy was sloppy and failed to catch the hijacking before it happened.
Meanwhile, Flight 93 was very likely shot down and then covered up.
Republicans were going to get a massive defense spending bill passed one way or another. Dems are always happy to roll over and “Support the Troops” when push comes to shove. It’s a stretch to say Cheney slow-rolled the response to a terrorist attack for the money. But very easy to believe he and Bush fumbled the response because they were bad at their actual administrative jobs. But then they spun the fuck-up into a cash grab months after the fact, because they’re very good at that sort of thing.
I was pretty young at the time, but the thing that I always think about is the movie Enemy of the State when I think about 9/11. Because before the attack, the general narrative was that we need to be worried about what power we give our government and how much they spy on their people and how far they are willing to go to maintain power. I think about Tomorrow Never Dies a lot too, where a media mogul tries to control world governments and people by controlling the news. I was maybe 7 or 8 when the later came out, but I always remember them in terms of 9/11 because after that attack, both movies started to become prescient. The internet was the only thing that kept me informed on what was really going on in the world. Now even that’s changing.
Because before the attack, the general narrative was that we need to be worried about what power we give our government
Under Clinton, the narrative was “we need to be worried about what power we give The Democrats because they are Evil America Hating Communists”. Under Bush, the narrative was “we need to support our Jesus-loving Freedom Loving Republican President”.
I would argue that fear of concentrated power in government went up astronomically in the run up to the 2004 election. But so long as Republicans were in control, the fear wasn’t echoed in national media.
Only after Obama took office did we see a re-emergence of Reaganite government skepticism. And that evaporated the moment Trump took office.
I still believe we let Pearl Harbor happen to drum up support for entering the war. I have no doubts the Bush administration wouldn’t do the same.
They used Bush as a distraction while they did shit behind the scenes. I don’t even think Bush was actually as dumb as he appeared to be. I think a chunk of it was an act.
So, at that point Hawaii wasn’t a state. The queen of Hawaii was asking for anyone during this ongoing war to liberate them from their horrible US occupiers. Japan thought the US would be mad about it and Japan would be able to say they were just liberating Hawaii which is what that were doing with other islands around the pacific already. The US knew about the attack and pulled the valuable assets to attack the planes as they went back. What was left in the harbor were old ww1 relics that they didnt care about. When Japan saw this, they actually feared we knew and were going to attack them after they dropped their payload (which we were) so they called off most of the attack before it really even began and took a different route home.
Sources?
I still believe we let Pearl Harbor happen to drum up support for entering the war.
It’s certainly possible FDR was warned of the Japanese attack in advance. But we didn’t have a Pacific Fleet capable of repelling them. Moving what we had to Pearl Harbor was an effort to improve our (generally weak) Pacific naval capacity and establish a forward operating base in anticipation of an attack in the Philippines. Not coincidentally, Japan took the Philippines the day after Pearl Harbor.
Also, this was already two years into WW2 and four years into the Sino-Japanese War (where we’d been backing the KMT against Japanese encroachment since the 1920s). Nothing like 9/11, unless you want to claim we’d been at war with a continent-spanning Islamic industrialized military since the late 90s.
Also, plus, further, too, the 9/11 attacks were calculated by Bin Laden as an explicit provocation intended to draw the US into a quagmire war in Afghanistan. Which… it did! Maybe didn’t go down exactly the way he planned, as the US dicked around in Afghanistan far longer than the Russians managed before their government collapsed. But if 9/11 is the Pearl Harbor to this analogy, it’s akin to saying Tojo wanted the US Navy to exhaust itself in the Pacific over the next twenty years. Let’s not forget that Bush didn’t want a war with Afghanistan. He was focused on Iraq and Iran. Afghanistan was a massive distraction.
And all of this hinges in a world in which FDR knew about the highly secretive Japanese navy movements in advance decades before we had the B-2 spy plane much less satellite surveillance. All to score a… media victory? In a country where FDR’s post-Depression government already had a heavy collar on the national press to the point that he was doing highly rated nightly podcasts to a national audience?
It’s a pure apples/oranges comparison.
There’s a lot of evidence that he knew.
https://www.historyonthenet.com/intelligence-warnings-of-the-pearl-harbor-attack-before-dec-7-1941
We cut off Japan’s fuel supply. Of course we knew they would retaliate.
Idk man. Prior to 9/11, “support the troops” wasn’t exactly a winning message. Go watch some 90s TV/movies, the military was always doing some dirty shit. Then after 9/11 the military was the best thing ever.
These types of covert operations are compartmentalised. Cheney would have only had need to know information, but they knew.
There are so many insane inconsistencies in all the stories surrounding that day. It is the greatest psy op the US ever perpetrated. I don’t think the attacks were US coordinated. People with influence were able to make sure there where NORAD exercises that day, and ensure plenty of chaos and disorganisation. Cheney would have been able with Rumsfeld to make sure the sector where the object impacted the pentagon was reinforced. The gang who knew what was going on got pretty big, to the point people got put options on the airlines the day before.
But the US really kicked into gear right after it happened. The WTC steel was immediately shipped off to china, there was no investigation about building 7 doing random free fall stuff. And then there was that word: conspiracy theorists. I’m fairly certain a bunch of the ‘theories’ were added by the CIA to make sure people just got fatigue or kept arguing among each other (the same way Trump floods the zone and we all gave up on the Epstein Files).
But I saw what I saw. An Empire in decline with no real enemy and no active war fronts and the biggest war machine as proportion of its GDP. What’s 3,000 people and a whole bunch of inconvenient documents disappearing as price to pay to feed that beast?
Of course Cheney didn’t know, he didn’t have to know.
I think it’s just the most propagandized event in modern history. We’ve had 25 years of professional conspiracy theories connecting dots that when you do a mild amount of digging end up being explained by incompetency, greed, or just general misinformation.
People with influence were able to make sure there where NORAD exercises that day
How are we determining who’s important, and how are we determining where they were supposed to be?
Rumsfeld to make sure the sector where the object impacted the pentagon was reinforced
The remodel of the pentagon began in 1990, the reinforment of the west side started 3 years before and was still being completed when the airplane struck.
The airplane hit the west side because the highjackers too over a west bound plane.
point people got put options on the airlines the day before.
The options you are talking about happened because they were publicly recommended by a tips sheet from a popular broker.
The WTC steel was immediately shipped off to china
Most of it was sold to recycling companies, a lot of that was to overseas markets that traditionally recyles the most steel. Thousands of tons of it were made into memorial that you can visit all across America. Why do you think having all of the steel would be important to the investigation?
7 doing random free fall stuff
The “free fall” that people refer to is because the internal support had already buckled and failed before facade came down. A lot of the claims that a sky scraper had never collapsed to a fire, were technically false at the time and have happened several times over in a similar fashion since.
bunch of the ‘theories’ were added by the CIA to make sure people just got fatigue or kept arguing among each other
They didn’t really need too, plenty of people made great living slinging new conspiracy theories about 9/11.
saw what I saw. An Empire in decline with no real enemy and no active war fronts and the biggest war machine as proportion of its GDP.
An empire in decline that spent a lot of time abroad fucking around, and 2001 was the time we found out. Political blowback is a mother fucker.
The options you are talking about happened because they were publicly recommended by a tips sheet from a popular broker.
Now this is so patently false that it borders on gaslighting, and in turn casts doubt on the rest of your assertions and your intentions. The trading anomalies were so large and significant that foreknowledge of the attack was patently obvious, there were several news stories over the next few days and then all sorts of academic analysis over the next few years, all pointing in that same direction.
Now, even the news stories back then and the initial assumption was that it was Bin Laden himself that had placed those financial bets through shadow international holdings or somesuch, precisely to profit from the attacks (similar to today, think Israel affairs and Polymarket), and the SEC immediately -and understandably- put all its effort and focus on the investigation. When following the money led them not to Al Qaeda, but to US financial institutions with players having deep CIA connections, the investigation was stopped, all names were redacted, several typical “nothing to see here” statements were issued, evidence was blatantly and illegally destroyed by the SEC, and all subsequent reports always had the actual names of the people involved blacked-out.
You can read all about it here on this compilation from an amazing researcher, which means you’ll have dates, names and -most importantly- links to all primary sources of information (original news, SEC reports, etc) so you can dive deeper into any one of the relevant facts:
So it’s not opinion or truther/conspiracy bullshit, documented and historical facts point to some people connected with and also within the intelligence apparatus had foreknowledge on several aspects of the upcoming attacks: dates, airlines involved and apparently also one of the targets (the WTC).
No, I’ve done this for 25 years.
There is enough details out there on the internet to convince anyone with a functioning brain that your theory is correct or mine, or any of the 256bits of grey zone in between. That’s what the fallout campaign did so well. Everything is in question and debunkable.
At the end, some one’s 9/11 opinion is just a reflection on whether they believe dark societal influences are capable of plotting, executing and looking the other way while others are plotting and executing.
The only logical thing to do due to the flooding of evidence is looking at the history, from the dropping of the bombs, having a magic bullet with very sharp turns kill a US president, the rise of the MIC (Eisenhouwer’s final words), the decoupling of the dollar to gold by Nixon in 74, and the hiding of the true money reserves, all the way to the SC installing a president in 2000…
This is where you’ll say ‘tf does that have to do with 9/11’.
You can zoom in like you do with the reason why the steel was shipped off or when the pentagon reinforcement started, but you only go there as long as it is comfortable to try and destabilise the person you’re arguing with. As long as it sounds like you have rational explanations that don’t make you sound like a conspiracy theorist.
Why do you think having all of the steel would be important to the investigation?
This is where your arguments are so clever: the steel one sidesteps that this was a crime scene, and the steel was evidence. By asking that question you put the onus on me, rather than having to admit that the crime scene and investigation was not done according to procedure.
recommended by a tips sheet from a popular broker.
Yes, that’s why so many people did it. I basically retired on it. /s
The remodel of the pentagon began in 1990,
Again, sidestepping that this is a heavily surveilled area, all footage was instantly confiscated (like that was planned beforehand) and only half a dozen frames were released ever of the impact, not at all proving beyond a reasonable doubt it was a plane.
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These discussions will never end unless you are willing to see what the Epstein Class behind the organisations can accomplish and how they can sidestep, control and manipulate almost any aspect of any government.
I understand you don’t want to believe that. And you’ll find evidence on the glorious internet you’re right till you die. But you’re in luck, as we approach this armageddon of these sick cults, they will do less and less effort to hide their power, and now with Trump “no more wars”, “dictator for one day”, you can almost see the hand of the puppet master.
TLDR: the internet will always tell you you’re right. Especially on a subject that had an active pysop executed on it (you call it propagandised). The covert groups and cults that planned and executed this had the motive, the opportunity and the ability to do so, and gave the US 2 forever wars for 2 decades and trillions in MIC spending.
PS: did you know Boeing, the company that makes the planes you fly on has murdered multiple whistleblowers? Never found guilty of anything. They were just suicides.
I don’t think the attacks were US coordinated
I think that’s kind of the greatest trick when it comes to conspiracies, I feel like 80% of the time the “government did this”, it’s more like the government is probably better at finding out details, and… not acting. IE every pubic figure known to man, probably has 20 credible assasination plots going against them at almost all times. You don’t have to twirl your moustache and hire an assasain, you just underfund the prevention group.
From the POV of hollywood movies and the endless barrage of cop tv shows: Government competency and the competency of those considering and planning crimes is grossly overestimated.
A targeted small group of individuals will almost always hit their target. The question is how they get away afterwards and for how long.
Others tried to warn Bush, too, and they were always intercepted by henchmen like Condoleeza Rice.
Willing to bet the US knew about Oct 07 ahead of time too
Why would the master share info with its dog? I doubt Netanyahu shared that with us beyond, “We expect a thing to happen.”
That’s essentially what this report is saying the Egyptian intelligence chief told Netanyahu, isn’t it? Hamas is planning “something unusual, a terrifying operation.”
I suspect that Hamas and Hezbollah are currently planning to do something horrible some day in the future.
Next time they do something horrible, you can say there was some guy on the internet that knew about it ahead of time.
I suspect that Hamas and Hezbollah are currently planning to do something horrible some day in the future.
I mean… the IDF does something horrible multiple times a week.
the blowback from this war is going to echo tragically for ages.
Next time they do something horrible, you can say there was
some guy on the interneta SpaceCowboy that knew about it ahead of time.Sorry username is too relevant there to pass up including it. It must be called out as a space cowboy’s prediction. Haha.
A reminder that Mossad’s motto is: ‘War by deception’
Kinda what espionage is all about isn’t it?