ppl trying to defend LLMs as if the only problem with “gen” AI is who it benefits under the inherently- erm- capitalistic nature of capitalism lol Its tiring.

  • chickenf622@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    How long until we start calling programming languages fash as well? LLMs are a tool and is no more fascist than the MP-40 used by Nazi Germany. LLMs don’t hold ideals much like a sub-machine gun doesn’t. Now are LLMs used by fascist? Yes obviously, but saying that fascism is inherit to a tool is just wrong. It can be used for fascist purposes, but it depends on the person using it.

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      17 days ago

      I would argue LLMs can be more fascist than than a gun. Any gun is used the same way with the same end goal of firing a projectile, but the use and design of a LLM is a lot more varied from model to model. If you purposefully omit or edit training data to change a LLMs response I would say that’s more fascist than making a special gun that shoots a different caliber.

      For clarification who are you saying “uses” the LLM, the end user or the people designing it? I’m assuming the end user is who “uses” it

      I agree with your main point and this is just kinda a useless argument but what’s the Internet made for if not silly debates? :>

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      22 days ago

      Slippery slope fallacy. Some tools are inherently wrong to use. Since we’re talking about weapons of war, you could never make this argument about napalm, for instance. The flaws of LLMs are inherent to them and can’t be painted over, no matter how perfect the paint or how well intentioned the painter.

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          16 days ago

          If we want to apply the fascist argument here as well, yes, I think napalm could only benefit a cause that, if nothing else, lends itself to fascism. However, putting that aside, there’s no good use case for napalm in general. I can’t believe I keep trying to re-word and explain that tools made for/inherently tied to suppressing or devaluing people and art are fascist, and it goes nowhere.