Rapist, fascist, racist, insurrectionist, pedophile, felon, conman, serial liar… Why sell him short?
All that stuff was well known BEFORE the election. That’s why I don’t have any respect for those who now claim they “made a mistake”.
Nah, people.dont research. None of that was known. They know only what fox news lies about. And anything opposing those views are just evil Democrats smearing him and lying because theres no proof!
As a leftist, I dislike this sentiment. We should not normalize isolating folks on the far right.
Of course, do what you want with your friend groups. Kick someone out if you don’t like hanging with them. But if you can swing it, there are a lot of cases where it can be really good thing to expose conservative folks to leftist worldviews in a friendly setting.
I feel including conservative folks has a much more direct and convincing theory of change than excluding them does.
(Again, it is cool if you don’t want to do that.)
I gotta say, its been hard. Im my experience what happens is the saner part of the fried group starts looking at you funny (you AGREE WITH THEM?!?), and over time it becomes a game of “well maybe if i just said this to them”. There are some people who are just entrenched. It becomes toxic and having to navigate through an increasing polarized environment becomes difficult. And “over on the other side of the fence“, its increasingly just different- different movies, music, social customs, and a lot of open hateful behavior, with little introspection or empathy. After a while it becomes a little hard to stomach the realization that sometimes, people do change for the worse.
ahem (taps the Maine Dem Primary)
We were unaware of critical information at the time. Information that was clearly suppressed. Do however note that we kicked the guy to curb IMMEDIATELY upon finding out, so can we call that an “oopsie?” please.
Was the totenkopf not a huge red flag, liberal?
Until foreigners apply that to US citizens in general. Then we’re expected to respect the individual who voted otherwise?
No.
Then we’re expected to respect the individual who voted otherwise?
Duh? Why would you disrespect someone for something they’re not responsible for?
They’re all collectively responsible for who they elect.
The difference between the rest of us and them is we take collective responsibility for our arsehole governments.
They’re all collectively responsible for who they elect.
Lol, no. Nether I nor my state voted for it. Do not blame me for the actions of people further away than your entire country from me like I have any control over what happens.
The country is collectively responsible for who it elects.
This is basic democracy. The problem is none of them can accept responsibility. That just comes in different forms, whether it’s non voting when you can, voting for arseholes or blaming others when it goes wrong.
So they lash out at the rest of us who understand that and vote accordingly at home. If that’s not enough they fund their political PACs to insert into our politics at home. Which is our fault too I guess. Like I had someone try and tell me earlier it’s our fault because we won’t sanction the US.
Sure, continue dividing your country into two sides. Let’s see how that will make everything okay.
I dunno about you, but my policy has always been that I don’t want to hang with people who support child rape.
Not an american so I’m not following the whole childrapingfest so closely. But I don’t think a person who is uninformed and has their head filled with propaganda is a pedo themselves. My country voted perfectly againts it’s best in the last election, we’re a full on MAGA fanboy land just because the two MAGA parties (one is “conservative” and other is racist that gets funded by Russia) had a very effective fear-mongering campaigns in the national news. Are these voters all idiots that can’t be helped and should be excluded? No, they just trusted the news they consumed.
Call me weird if you like but I think there is already a hard line between normal people and those who would vote for a rapist… are you suggesting they come together and be friends? Do you not think the normalisation of something so abhorrent is why American society has already been abused beyond recognition? Fascinating.
Not saying anything about being friends, but if you guys can’t find a way to behave, work and exist together after Trump, there is really no future for you. Only Trump2 will win.
I don’t fully agree. Of course it’s problematic that people voted for trump, that’s out of the question. But the question should rather be: What circumstances led to someone voting for trump?
People are actually struggling a lot and voting for the person advertising a solution can seem very attractive if you desperately need an improvement.
In the end, voting doesn’t fix the underlying system and can only achieve marginal improvements. All Parties are only managing the same capitalistic state and not changing the whole system.
Ostracizing people based on their vote is not a proper solution and will not lead to people voting for someone different. People are more likely to reinforce their existing beliefs if met with heavy resistance.
Also the party war is distracting from the actual class war.
Maybe I took the meme too seriously but I think it’s important to consider.
No War But Class War!
Edit: Maybe don’t hang out with them, but analyze the reasons that made them vote in the way they did. People who voted for trump probably have the same problems with capitalism that you do but their anger is misguided by populism and capitalist propaganda.
“Voting for the person advertising a solution” ah yes, the dude who said “Concepts of a plan” And word-salad’s his way through everything because his brain is as smooth and squishy as half-melted butter. What an excellent solution man he is.
I’m not “ostracizing people based on their votes” I’m ostracizing people who actively want to strip me of my rights, and quite possibly want to physically harm me fuck off with this “We should all be friends, it’s the only way to convince them” shit. I’d have better luck convincing a hungry polar bear I’m not food.
We all knew who trump was going into 2024. I can forgive 2016, in truth, I didn’t expect him to be as bad as he was. I can barely forgive people who voted in 2020, because by then we all knew he was a fucking idiot and people should have known better. But 2024? Nah. Fuck them. We all saw how dumb he was, we all saw january 6th, we all knew about project 2025, anything less is willful ignorance.
It’s not just a “party war,” it’s a morality war. If you voted for trump in 2024, you have zero morals, empathy, and I genuinely believe you lack the capability to participate in society in any meaningful way.
I don’t think you are aware of how desperate a lot of people were. I know it’s easy to villainize people who want to take away the rights of people you love and yourself. My friends and me would be affected by his policy too if we lived in the US. But the people who voted for trump are still human and not evil in person. They have their own reasoning and problems, they were just convinced of the wrong target. They probably have a lot of the same problems with capitalism that a lot of people have. They just aren’t targeting capitalism but some minority or foreigners in general.
Can we all normalize not giving Ukraine and Taiwan money even if dems win in 2026? I think there should be an understanding about borrowing 2 trillion dollars yearly being a bad thing and not sustainable
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Nah dawg.
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Well I’m glad you’re citing a baseless opinion as fact.
Oh wait, that’s what conservatives/regressives do. Nevermind, that’s fucking stupid and you should delete your comment.
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