As a PC gamer I have zero hype for GTA6, and that’s ok because I have a treasure trove of highly discounted and free games to keep me busy until however many years down the road I have to wait for it, after which I’ll get to play it with better graphics.

I’ll vote for someone who promises to obtain and release the names of every ICE agent.

Fascist persecution.

The Nazis did this to the Jews.

Reminder that if you care, at all, about democracy, then it is your duty to vote in whatever manner is most likely to prevent a Republican (fascist) from becoming president in every election for the remainder of your life. You can play around with 3rd parties in other elections and I encourage it, but we cannot allow Republican presidents any longer. The office has too much power to reshape/destroy our federal government and persecute the disadvantaged.

how intellectually bankrupt this person is

When you have endless money and are surrounded by people fighting to give you handjobs all day, every day you tend to lose touch with reality and common sense.

It’s like Atlas Shrugged, but even dumber.

So tired of watching these dipshit’s fortunes detach them from reality.

The narcissism is so off the charts that the idea of death must be utterly terrifying to them. You know this chode is going to put himself on ice at the end in the hopes he can get a new body in the future without recognizing that the future is going to be a dystopian shithole or arid wasteland.

Zohran Mamdani only had 4 years of experience before becoming a highly effective mayor of fucking New York City, are you high off your fucking balls?!

Again. You fail to see the difference between a mayoral election in a deep blue city and a national election involving millions upon millions of bigots in the right geographical areas to win a national election.

We cannot have a meaningful interaction until you are able to discern between the two.

If you are an adult, you have to accept that different candidates have different qualities and those qualities can make them more or less electable based on the type of election they are in. If you vote for someone that doesn’t have electable qualities within the system the election is taking place, you are wasting your vote.

MARK Kelly

To be clear, Mark Kelly isn’t my favorite choice. Just the option I think is most likely to win as of right now. I’d love to join the far left bandwagon and scream AOC from the rooftops, but I’ve been around long enough to know she’s extremely unlikely to win the big one.

If we’re evaluating evaluation the democratic party under accepted geopolitical terms

We’re not. We’re evaluating it within the confines of the United States of America. And in the United States of America a party that supports creating and bolstering social support programs is on the left of the spectrum since the other side seeks to (and is) eliminating social support programs.

the 2016 primaries were pretty close

55% 34 states (Hillary) to 43% 23 states (Bernie). Personally I wouldn’t consider that close. Could have been worse.

Would be hard to tell

Not really. On a national scale far left candidates and 3rd parties get crushed to the point of irrelevancy. That’s pretty solid proof that, while they might be popular in deep liberal regions, they aren’t on a national level and can’t win a national election. That’s why I warn against thinking candidates like Bernie and AOC are popular because they’re big on the internet. Reality has proven there’s a big swath of America that is not represented by internet hype but show up at the polls.

That’s just chasing after Republicans

There aren’t just two types of voters in this country. There are a TON of independents. You will scare them away with far left candidates. AOC is a bridge too far for MANY voters. Just like Bernie was. Look at our country. Look where we are right now. We are deeply conservative. You can’t just leap frog us to a far left scenario. That’s wishful thinking and that’s what children do.

The only thing left to do is to galvanize young voters to the polls.

Young voter turnout is always awful. Everyone really thought this last one would be different. It wasn’t. They had bad turnout like they always do. A lot of people just don’t vote until they get older and more invested.

What long winded way to say that progressive voters don’t want to vote for someone advocating for a genocide

Great. Cool. Genocide. Awesome. The word of the year. Let me restart my counter for how many minutes I’ve gone without hearing it. Regardless of genocide, there was a better and worse choice to make regarding OUR OWN nation. People let a situation on the other side of the planet drive them to make a poor decision regarding their own nation. You can say the word “genocide” until the day you die, nothing changes that. If you don’t like ham are you going to starve or eat dogshit instead of just dealing with a ham sandwich? It’s not like the other option was NOT genocide. It was a guy being clear he was 100% onboard with Israel no matter what. How dumb do you have to be to not vote or vote 3rd party to help that guy win if you give any shits at all about Palestinians?

Such a high bar

My bar is not allowing an actual fascist from being placed in the highest office in our federal government which the Supreme Court gave almost unlimited powers to, and watching him systematically disassemble our federal government and violate our Constitutional rights. I do actually care more about preventing that than I do about a religious conflict taking place on the other side of the planet.

the fucking cop…

Oh no. A prosecutor (not cop) vs a felon rapist pedophile fascist or a 3rd party candidate with literally no path to victory, or not voting at all. Damn, this one is real hard. Better put my thinking cap on.

It was the fully HTML customizable pages that did it for me.

“New and relatively inexperienced” come now, can we not do this nonsense?

You saying something is nonsense doesn’t make it so. AOC would be the youngest president in U.S. history if elected. Her only experience is being a member of the House for 7 years. Only ONCE IN AMERICAN HISTORY (1880) has someone been elected president directly from the House. And I’m not going to accept the argument about Trump having no experience. Liberals are not conservatives. Conservatives openly support felon rapist pedophiles who regularly violate our Constitution and this is not the first time they’ve elected a TV personality to be president. There is no valuable comparison between us and them.

Begging for useless

How is Mark Kelly useless? He has more experience than AOC and has qualities that connect him with a higher percentage of Americans. The internet doesn’t represent reality. If it did Bernie Sanders would be president. Just because AOC is liked on Reddit/Lemmy doesn’t mean she stands a better chance than Mark Kelly or makes him “useless”.

centrist

Mark Kelly wants to abolish the filibuster in order to pass voting rights legislation. He wants to increase the minimum wage. He is pro choice. He wants to codify Roe v Wade. These are definitely left leaning beliefs.

Mamdani and Al-Sayed and the other progressives seeing support is happening in real-time

Mamdani can never win a national election because he can never become president. He won an election in a DEEP blue area of our country. Al-Sayed has not won the governorship yet. And winning a governorship is a WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME to winning a national election in which he’d have to get racist ass middle America to vote for him, or not vote against him, which simply wouldn’t happen.

so take this weird-ass attitude and shove it.

Nah kid. You need to stop allowing your EMOTIONS to dictate your beliefs and start accepting the reality you live in and work within that reality to get as close as possible to what you want. Because enough other people exist in this world that don’t want what you want to keep you from having exactly what you want. And the fact that far left candidates and 3rd parties keep losing on a national scale should be enough proof for you. Because right now you don’t seem to grasp the difference between a national, federal election and every other election.

Running right-wing candidates hasn’t been working

In no American reality is Mark Kelly right-wing. Neither was Kamala. The right in America has pulled so far right at this point that no Democrat candidate could be considered right wing.

and these “far left” candidates have been very popular.

Like Bernie Sanders, who lost the POPULAR VOTE in both primaries by a wide margin? Bernie was not as popular as the internet suggested, and I’d be willing to bet AOC isn’t either. And she has nowhere near the experience, and I’d argue charisma, Bernie has. And, as I mentioned above, woman and not white. Sucks, but that’s our trashcan nation.

Maybe they should try it for a change.

Hey, I’m onboard. Most of America isn’t though.

What do you think these losses are caused by?

Not great candidates? An avalanche of propaganda unlike the world has ever seen? Dem’s failure at effective messaging? The issue isn’t that we aren’t going far left enough. That’s just going to drive a significant chunk of voters away in this country. Going ultra far works great for a bigot fear-based conservative voter base. Not gonna work for a more nuanced liberal/independent voter base.

I thought it was moving to the right and alienating your base

The only widespread alienation I’ve witnessed is the Israel thing. That was a complicated geo-political situation that a bunch of people who fail at seeing the forest for the trees let drive a wedge between them and voting for what was best for our country. And now we have blatant fascism. Which I believe we will get more of if we keep gambling with super left candidates with other qualities that have been proven to be negative in this bigoted nation of ours.

They name it something cool as hell like DEMON CORE and they expect people NOT to touch it?

Definitely wasn’t the sole reason. But it was one of them.

• Woman

• Not white

• Inexperienced

• Would be youngest president in history

• Too far left

These things may not matter to you, the inexperience is the only one that matters to me, but I absolutely promise you they matter to a significant number of Americans. Significant enough to put another Republican in control and further erode our already eroding democracy.

Gambling isn’t smart. Especially when you’re gambling with democracy. AOC is a biiiiiig gamble.

Republicans are not going to run Vance.

They’ll run whoever starts openly expressing bigoted views. That has been conclusively proven.

Yeah, I mean this feels exactly the same as when Biden was president. Right? Right?

And people of color in positions of authority.

These are things the left apparently refuses to accept about our nation, to the point of being willing to lose and watch our democracy erode.

I get it. A black man was president. He was also a black man with A LOT of charisma and experience and a senator and older than AOC, who would be the youngest president in U.S. history if elected.

Winning and protecting our democracy is more important to me than sitting on a throne of ideals on the losing side.

Weird.

I didn’t think AOC was a presidential candidate until after the primaries.

Maybe we shouldn’t be counting our chickens before they hatch.

Reminder that we live in a notably bigoted nation that has problems with women and people of color in positions of authority. Reminder that a lot of voters have issues with young and still relatively inexperienced politicians running for president. Not conservatives. They don’t give a fuck who they run for president. But other voters want experience. Reminder that to win we need to get some independents on our side and they definitely aren’t going to vote for a far left candidate if they vote left at all. Reminder that at this point, every time we lose, our democracy becomes much, much more threatened by the forces that want it gone.

I like AOC… What I don’t like is continuing to lose and watching our democracy erode.

Based on our bigoted nation, as far as my opinion is concerned, our current best bet to ACTUALLY WIN is Mark Kelly. He is male. He is white. He is more moderate. He has military service. He is a senator. He stood up to Trump in court and won. He is married to a politician who was shot in the head during an assassination attempt and survived. He has the experience and independents and bigots can vote for him without feeling like they’re betraying their beliefs.

And despite my OPINION I’m not posting posts pretending to assume he’s the chosen Democrat candidate for president years before the primaries even happen.

Not like he has a choice. He’s got nothing else to think with.