• AeronMelon@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Also, this is just plain wrong.

    Some women are attracted to intellectual minds.

    Some women are attracted to physical strength, some women are attracted to maternal instincts, so on and so forth.

    The problem is this question is usually being asked by someone who thinks that responding to every factual statement with an inflammatory counterpoint qualifies as intelligence.

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    10 days ago

    Kinda bordering a strawman here, but if I said

    why are men attracted into the airhead type?

    there would be bunch of dudes saying they are into intelligent women, and that it’s just hollywood.

    Dylan says "Why don't girls like me," sulking. "Hey," "Dylan" says the offscreen voice.
Dylan looks over to see a giant amalgamation of women, some of them are falling as it moves. The amalgamation speaks to him. "It's me, all girls. Only you understand that all women share a consciousness, Dylan. Be one with me . Link yourself to the hivemind." Dylan has stopped sulking, as he now only cowers in fear.

    (Sidenote props to the artist for drawing all those people one by one)

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      Men are attracted to the “airhead type” because those women are good at making men feel good about themselves and keeping up lively conversation; and though people usually prioritise companions who have the same interests as them, they enjoy talking also to a lively conversation partner, perhaps someone as-different-from-themselves as possible: someone who surprises them.

      Many men feel that all women have the “airhead” quality - no, not as in they’re all stupid, but as in they’re lively and conversational in that stereotypical way that disrupts the man-to-man conversation; and though they do not speak to men as equals (preferring to talk over them or jerk the conversation off on some other tangent, perhaps, or dwell on uniquely feminine topics which baffle/disinterest the male listener), this is seen as no big loss, really. For women are different to men, and their presence in our lives is welcome precisely because of that rather than in spite of it.

      The important thing to remember is that people change overtime and every person is more multifaceted than massive media would have us believe - so yes, that is “just Hollywood.” Who’s to say why a man likes an “airhead,” she probably has more depth to her than you know about.

      Edited to change one comma into a colon, and formalise grammar in final sentence

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    9 days ago

    Why are dudes like this.

    Women are individuals who’s preferences differ from person to person. But forget all that for a second. Women are just not attracted to men who are DUMPY RUDE ASSHOLES. NOBODY IS. These dudes make so many excuses to not work on themselves.

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        7 days ago

        I always assumed “dude” is gender-neutral word. We even have a saying “dūdiņa” in my language which is like sweet-talking “dude” word meant towards women.

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    9 days ago

    Dude lamenting women not being attracted to intelligence checks out as he use a picture that clearly focuses on a woman’s intelligence.

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    I mean, that’s a fun take but realistically there are plenty of women who put a lot more stock in looks (just as men do) an immediate financial ability.

    That jock who got a job that’s physically demanding might be making more out of high school, but the IT nerd who went for they education and got a good tech job was likely on a slower burn path to self-improvement with better pay, possibly improving looks over time (or at least less of a beer belly). At least before AI started killing the tech sector again, so maybe the jocks will be coming out ahead for awhile.

    Also, there’s also nothing wrong with being a good dude with average intelligence who works hard. Just don’t pick an red-hatred idiot. And intelligent nerds who don’t learn social skills can absolutely still become nasty incels.

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    9 days ago

    Ah yes, how to succeed in life in a fundamentally broken society that values exploitation over everything else. Couldn’t think of a better metric for choosing a partner.

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      Yes, it is. Someone who can do well in society and their lives while being generally good to those around them is often considered a good catch.

      Thinking that anyone who succeeds in life in our society must be one of the like, less than 10% who are ghouls is odd.

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        Beeing generally happy and doing well while simultaneously profiting from a society that is build on genocide, exploitation of natural resources and imperialism is such a twisted concept. Even if not part of the 10%.

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          Gotcha. So would you rank yourself as mostly unhappy, destitute and unwell?

          Can you think of anyone in our society who’s doing alright within the confines of a broken system, or do you think that everyone’s existence is inseperable from the context of that existence, even if the means of changing it or it’s impact are outside of their reach? Somewhere in the middle?

          I met a guy who helps manage a homeless shelter and food bank. Stand-up guy. Makes ends meet, is doing what he can where he can. Generally happy guy with a family. Pretty twisted right? Or my former coworker who let his gardening hobby get out of hand and ended up running a community garden that retrofitted two houses to donate to families in need.

          People exist in their circumstances, but they’re not defined by them. How you react to those circumstances speaks to your character, not that you exist in them.

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            How you react to those circumstances speaks for your character

            Being able to ignore the bigger picture because you can change your own privileged surroundings IS the problematic reaction that speaks for your character

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              Gotcha, so doing good where you can makes you evil unless you’re mired in torment over things beyond your control? By that metric everyone in the world is evil.

              I can’t fathom an ethical system that requires you to be unhappy about things beyond your control once you’ve done the good that you can.

              What constitutes “good character” to you? What constitutes “success”?

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                Yes it is called empathy, it’s nothing you can buy yourself out of by doing good things. If you are somehow interested in the well being of the people it just doesn’t magically disappear after helping some of them. It doesn’t make you evil but it’s certainly not a good sign to weigh these things against each other. The ability to feel good while seeing the world suffer seems to me problematic.

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                  Gotcha. So when was the last time you were happy? I take it you simply do not do things you enjoy?

                  And when did I say anything even remotely like not feeling empathy for suffering, or that caring for people disappears after doing a good deed? Empathy isn’t an ethical system.

                  I’m actually curious what behavior you think would be non-problematic, and if any human actually does that.

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      Instincts. Supposedly we look for the healthiest partner, and beauty is a symbol of health.

      Then again, some of us have been burnt and I no longer trust beautiful women, I prefer partner who’s easy to get along with/talk with and isn’t just using me.

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        I’m sorry. Sounds like you’ve had some shitty experiences. I have, too, so maybe I get it at least somewhat (based on this very short description), but my experiences aren’t yours, and it sucks. It changes you and can fuck up future relationships and happiness if the aftermath doesn’t go well. Hoping you have found a better path toward happiness.

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        Oh, I am highly attracted to certain kinds of intelligence in women, but (a) I think I have acquired this over my post-teenage life, and (b) I still very much need that intelligence to be in a body I also find attractive. We are all victims of our evolution and cultural messaging, to varying extents.

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    Nobody is attracted to intelligence. Don’t say you are because you aren’t. You’re attracted to the body. And whoever you’re with is attracted to your body. That’s romantic love. If you’re upset that people don’t love you for your brain, you suffer from body dysmorphia.

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        Oh man, I am so sorry I told everyone here that they’re physically attractive. Okay. You win. I’m insane. You’re right. You’re all ugly monsters who will never find love.

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          You’re not even trying to understand why everyone disagrees with you. In fact, you’re refusing to even acknowledge that you could be mistaken in your premise that people aren’t attracted to intelligence, and instead lash out.
          That is why you need therapy.

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            You’re not even trying to understand why everyone disagrees with you.

            That’s fine. They’re not even trying to understand what I was saying.

            In fact, you’re refusing to even acknowledge that you could be mistaken in your premise that people aren’t attracted to intelligence, and instead lash out. That is why you need therapy.

            Are you being serious? Or just attacking me like the other person? Because I’m pretty sure if I go to a therapist and I show them these exchanges, they’re not going to say that I’m the one who needs therapy.

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              No, they will.

              You unilaterally claimed that nobody is attracted to intelligence, that everyone is just pretending and they’re really only attracted to physical appearance. Even as hyperbole, that is a wildly unhealthy thing to believe, and you absolutely called yourself out.

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                No, they will.

                No they won’t.

                You unilaterally claimed that nobody is attracted to intelligence, that everyone is just pretending and they’re really only attracted to physical appearance. Even as hyperbole, that is a wildly unhealthy thing to believe, and you absolutely called yourself out.

                What’s wildly unhealthy is loving the person you’re fucking in the same way you love your mother and sister and grandma. I’m not the one calling myself out.

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                  everyone except me is hiding the truth about what they really feel, but I know the truth!

                  That’s the position you’re going to double down on, in the face of everyone correcting you? No, the therapist won’t think you’re crazy at all.

                  You think you’ve found a gotcha, but you’re still just outing yourself. You think that a romantic relationship involves a single type of attraction, and that a single type of attraction affects sexual arousal? If I believed you capable of long term romantic relationships, I’d pity your spouse.

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        What about blind people?

        If you’re a cis hetero male looking for a cis hetero woman like the person in the OP meme, and you’re looking to attract blind demisexuals, then you’re not going to be asking why women aren’t attracted to intelligence in the first place.

        I’m being pragmatic and you’re all throwing spherical cows at me.