I’d say “Doomer” is the perfect term to describe the assholes who think “Politics don’t affect me personally, so why should I even consider?” or “Both sides are crap, choosing is just chickening out”.

You know the kind of pessimistic irascible assholes you find on Twitter or 4Chan or even Kiwi Farms who doesn’t care what you want to express online.

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 hours ago

    bOtH sIdEs are crap, but you must pick your favorite turd.

    It’s not pessimistic, friend, it’s realistic. Why ever would you expect our political system to stop being as it has been for our lifetime? It’s just dumb. You can work for change, but some cynicism is healthy.

    I’m politically active, I’ve run for office, volunteered, and vote in every election.

    Re those who want to stay uninvolved, you’re just going to have to deal with it. Some people are taking care of their sick parents. Some are raising crazy kids. Some are fighting mental illness. Some are working three jobs. They’re doing their best, if you don’t like it you can lump it.

    • Solumbran@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 hours ago

      Both sides… As in, woke and anti woke?

      So nazis wanting to kill minorities, are the same as people defending life, minorities, and freedom?

    • BooBees@fedinsfw.appEnglish
      18·
      10 hours ago

      Or captive. Or ignorant. You can be captive to a cult, or domineering person, or just so ignorant or intellectually challenged you literally don’t know these ideas exist in their proper context and why.

  • otp@sh.itjust.works
    10·
    10 hours ago

    Probably some flavour of anti-woke.

    You described people who are anti-woke and the question is whether they’re also anti-anti-woke.

  • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
    8·
    10 hours ago

    To have a dispassionate conversation about it - they aren’t perfect antonyms. The woke movement and the antiwoke movement don’t oppose precisely the same things and neither of them have a definitive definition any longer, mostly due to the overuse of the terms over a long time.

    For example people will use anti-woke unironically but you rarely see anyone use woke genuinely and with passion any more. Infact anyone who does would seem dated and ridiculous now to seriously request without irony to consider being woke.

  • palordrolap@fedia.io
    4·
    9 hours ago

    Curmudgeon, perhaps. Or at least curmudgeonly.

    Or choose from something here: https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/curmudgeon

    Among those, “crank” stands out. This is usually someone who holds a (often provably) wrong, unconventional or unpopular opinion and insists that their way is the right way and that everyone else is wrong.

    Cranks can be right, which a crank will hold onto dearly and use in their arguments, even if the considerable majority of cranks turn out to have been wrong.

    On the other hand, cranks tend to beat their metaphorical drum a lot more than someone who simply refuses to pick a side and keeps their trap shut.