• bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    Question my friend brought up. If people wanted to, could they not get say 5 or 10 folks together to buy a large ish property, and then live on that? Thats basically a “commune”. His argument is “people can do that right now but they dont, therefore this system wouldn’t work”.

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    24 hours ago

    When humans do build their own nest, the govt comes in and destroys it and throws out all of their meager possessions.

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    1 day ago

    It’s actually quite cheap to build a house if you can put on some of the work yourself. I talked to an architect specialized in self building houses and she said you’d build a nice house for 60k€.

    Gotta buy the place where you’re allowed to build it of course…

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      9 hours ago

      That’s not cheap. Where are people ment to get both the money to build the house, and the land to do it on, and all the paperwork before they can do anything.

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        9 hours ago

        Ooh that expensive paperwork, I forgot about that.

        /s

        If you have no money then no you cannot build or buy a house, who would have known… Guess instead of borrowing 60k you’ll have to pay rent for the rest of your life.

        But it doesn’t matter, you don’t sound like someone being able to build more than a sand castle.

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          8 hours ago

          It must be nice to have been born into money, so you have no idea how the real world works.

          When you go to a bank and ask to borrow money they often won’t give you it if they don’t feel like they’re going to get their money back. If it didn’t work like that then obviously everyone would borrow money and buy their own house.

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            5 hours ago

            It must be hard not being able to discuss things without inventing situations and getting angry by them.

            So angry you have to type it down too! 😂🥱

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      14 hours ago

      I’m sure that the family who just got kicked out of their home because they couldn’t keep up with their rent and inflation would greatly benefit from that information.

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              11 hours ago

              They were adding to the conversation, as well as being relevant to the original post. You need to chill with that bashing shit, it’s rude af

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              13 hours ago

              What was your expectation, when you commented on a drawing that highlights a systemic issue, the fact that private property is considered more important than the rights of people to have shelter, with a suggestion that anyone can just build their own home with the 60k they have laying around? It’s an interesting observation, but in no way relevant to the post you’re commenting on.

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      24 hours ago

      Hmm, I guess they have to control it somehow. In US the land is super cheap, but even if you want to build a house yourself, you still have to goto contractors for materials and things, and everything ends up being more expensive than what a company can buy them for. So you end up with around the same price as a new house you can buy even if you save a bit of labor. Only people I’ve seen do it are people already in construction industry and can get materials for similar prices and use their connections for things

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        13 hours ago

        That’s what I thought, and the person I spoke to is an architect. Maybe laws ate different in France, but I doubt it.

        Houses here are like 400k€ Minimum so that matters ofc.

        I’d love just having a community built somewhere, with people helping everyone. 🤗😌Is all.

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          Yeah, as someone who has moved so much, I miss community the most, and it looks like you can’t really build a community. Specially not like the one you were born into. Where we grew up people did help each other, for houses you’d still need some people that are qualified and experienced, and people can chime in a bit of materials and labor. But when hiring help you still hired from your community.

          And when some quality of life improvements comes whole community would do it at once. Like I remember we moving from ventless oven to oven that vents outside and we got some of the tools as a community and tool turn using it so everyone improved their ovens for cheap