The best one is where the install size is negative that peak joy.
I’m glad I’m not alone in this joy
I love looking at my NixOs rebuild result (using nh) and seeing -50MB.
… Then I remember I’m on nixos and it doesn’t matter much
And the system gets quicker!
Just don’t accidentally abort your Arch updates partway through.
That’s a lesson you’ve got to learn just once…
I’m so glad with making a decision to escape the Winslop subscriptions at every mouse click.
Unless its ubuntu*
Don’t hate, but I actually like the GUI update manager in Mint. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That just runs apt and prints it nicely to you
That is exactly the sort of behavior every gui should do.
Oh, I’m well aware. It’s just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know?
The key here IMO is that you decide both when and how.
No such option with Windows, but if you like the GUI and are used to using that, I don’t see why anyone of their right mind would have a problem with that.Personally I prefer to open a terminal and press the up key so I don’t have to type the command again, it takes 30 times until I get to the correct command, so it’s clearly slower, but hey we all have our little quirks.
history | grep <something I vaguely remember >
!<number of that command>
You can do reverse search but I’m too lazy to remember the sequence right now
ctrl R then type
Never tried history | grep though. Thanks for the tip!
Its all the same under the hood.
As a long time windows user who has switched to CachyOS, I agree, even get notifications about updates
That’s a front end on apt. You’re just making it pretty.
Permit me to repeat what I said to a similar reply:
Oh, I’m well aware. It’s just that sometimes I like a cushion on my chair, you know?
Ive said that Linux turned tech and computing back to fun for me, after hating interacting with computers and devices more and more. Linux is just fun to learn and rewarding.
Sometimes I have to remind myself how horrible locked down maliciously coded OS’s are and how good I have it with Linux.
Free as in freedom. One of the last living things from the hippie movement, by the people, for the people. No governments required.
eeehhh some of the largest contributors are sponsored by mega corps and governments, but yeah the leading ethos is FOSS
apt upgrade -UDoes both update and upgrade.
One fun thing about Linux is that you always learn
I don’t want to learn. I have job to do.
You don’t learn things at your job? Damn, you must not be a good employee.
Learning OS wizardry is counterproductive. I have more important stuff to do.
So you don’t learn OS wizardry and don’t fuck around with working machine when there is stuff to do, duh. This doesn’t depend on OS in use
This thread is highlighting exactly why windows users think Linux is unusable - apt, pacman etc are all commands that require a minimal understanding of the terminal, and the average person does not have that. The answer isn’t “learn in your own time”, because that simply isn’t going to happen - they have no interest in the internals, how things work, they just want the end product.
Regular users just want it to update itself in the background or have a nice obvious “system update” button like Mint. The only thing they understand about “apt upgrade -u” is the word ‘upgrade’ - the rest might as well be ancient sumerian to them. Even remembering the short phrase is infinitely more complex than pressing a clearly labelled button. You will never convert a single user by trying to convince them to use any form of CLI over a GUI.Oh, so you are from one of my favourite gangs - “terminal is scary and a no-go”. Okay, I am yet in a good mood, so
apt, pacman etc are all commands that require a minimal understanding of the terminal, and the average person does not have that
they don’t require that. “open terminal, type this incantation, press enter” requires zero knowledge of how any of that works. Also, “average person” is wildly different depending on where it is measured
Regular users just want it to update itself in the background
Bullshit. You ever seen threads of how windows users hate its forced updates fuckery?
The only thing they understand about “apt upgrade -u” is the word ‘upgrade’ - the rest might as well be ancient sumerian to them
So let it be sumerian. Only thing anyone cares about is they know how to use it
Even remembering the short phrase is infinitely more complex than pressing a clearly labelled button
First - bullshit. Second - “clearly labeled” my ass, because human language is not maths, any text can be understood very differently depending on a number of things
You will never convert a single user by trying to convince them to use any form of CLI over a GUI
That made me chuckle. Go on, give me more insights about my life, it is so funny
Alias na=“Sudo nala upgrade -y”
Does update and upgrade with parallel downloads from fast high bandwidth repos and pretty colors 😍
Dammit, learning about this right after switching from Mint to OpenSuSE
Honestly great switch though. OpenSUSE is lovely and I bet you’ll like Zypper. :)
Definitely make sure you know how to use BTRFS Snapper rollbacks and always
zypper dup(not up) on Tumbleweed!Also the community is great.
To quote the login terminal:
Have a lot of fun!
Yeah, liking zypper so far, except that it decided I must have forgotten to install the games and kde-games patterns which I deselected during install because I’ll never use them (my games are pretty much all on steam, I’ve got no real interest in the built-in ones). Blocked them but now it’s warning me about that every time I update, which is a bit obnoxious, but I’m sure I’ll either figure it out or learn to not care about that
Maybe I can help! I’m sure somebody knows a slick CLI way, but I know that using YAST Package Manager (or maybe the new and fancy Myrlin), you can see what version of packages are installed and from which repo.
If it’s available in the standard SUSE open repo, you can just switch to that.
Also, you can go to that open repo and there’s an option at the top that says “Switch all packages to this repository” or something like that. Then you can probably safely remove KDE-Games if you don’t want it.
The KDE-Games repo sometimes will have drivers or game related tools and things like that, but no, I don’t think it’s strictly necessary if there’s nothing in it you want.
nixos-rebuild switchbrh rebase image:versionimage can be any in the bazzite universe or one you pinned to save because it specifically works really well for whatever reason
sudo nixos-rebuild switchor
nh os switch .if you’re feeling fancy
You sure the guys running pacman are sitting on the right hand side of the bus? Seems a bit more like they should be in the back doing a skill check for luck and rolling a d20
The recent attacks have been against the AUR.
Which pacman doesn’t reference.In terms of sneaking in malicious code, that’s possible in the official repos of all operating systems, including the windows store.
The actual meme speaks more to the fact that windows update is enforced unless you jump through enormous flaming hoops, and it will measurably make your already running system worse as it forces the installation of things the user wouldn’t want (ie copilot) or removes functionality they do (classic control panel).
But you know… I use Arch btw.
My comment was just a joke man, wow