Or you can just tell the primarily fear motivated idiots to be afraid of things, and then their brains stop working, they just don’t like the scary thing and want scary thing to suffer because scary thing is bad.

You can’t win an argument with an idiot; they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Remember the whole… they go low, we go high, rhetoric?

Assanine. Literally an in-group signalling feel good hugbox measure, doesn’t actually work at all on the out group. Vanity and smugness as a strategy, a strategy that repeatedly fails in a political system that is rigged to over represent the local yokel ya’ll qaeda types, and is rigged to disenfranchise the working poor and minority groups of all kinds.

You think that you’re playing an unrigged game, for some reason, maybe because thats a comforting thing to hold onto, that democracy is inevitable and rules and norms are just and eternal, because they seem nice and fair to you.

Well guess what?

We got 1/3 of the country that effectively gets 1/2 the voting power.

The game isn’t fair, the rules are always changing, and this 1/3 of people would and literally has willingly voted to destroy democracy itself and replace it with tyranny.

You gotta change the rules you are willing to play by… if the real game is how you rig the apparent game, you need to think outside your comfort zone, or just admit defeat right now.

Yep, its pretty much that stupid.

But… if its stupid… and it works…

… it isn’t stupid.

Playing chess with a pigeon and getting mad that it isn’t playing by the rules and then flaps over the pieces?

You’re the fool.

Just get some bird seed and also a broom, apply positive and negative reinforcement toward the desired result.

You fundamentally don’t get it.

Being an asshole about it is the tactic that works.

You’d want to avoid me just like you’d want to avoid the assholes this would work on, because you’re not like them, and you don’t like them.

You can’t reason with everyone. That tactic, reasoning, doesn’t work on or with everyone. Some people just do need to be rhetorically slapped around, all pathos and ethos, because logos has no real effect on them.

People like you would hand wave away a brash boistrous blustering bloviation of bullshit.

People like them, that’s the real language that speaks to them, the only thing that makes an impact on not their conscious thoughts, but their subconscious that gives rise to those conscious thoughts.

Stop acting as if everyone else is like you.

The whole point here is what tactic convinces people that are not like you and cannot be convinced by reason? That that tactic wouldn’t work on you is irrelevant. Get over yourself.

Trust me I wish I was wrong.

Tried for 2 decades to do the reasoning thing.

It doesn’t matter, it doesn’t work.

They don’t argue in good faith, because most of them literally are not capable of arguing in good faith.

You make them your bitch, and force or trick them to realize your way is better for both you and them.

Most others do see it this way.

They just got you convinced you’re outnumbered.

You’re not.

They just own the media, the social media, and only ever get better and better at determining who does and doesn’t get to vote.

No point in conceeding shit to bullies, they’ll just keep bullying you.

You got the life experience of a 12 yo if you think being reasonable to a diehard conservative will have any effect on them other than making them internally chuckle that you’re trying to take them seriously, in good faith.

I’ll meet them where they’re at and tell them they’re a fucking moron.

I also don’t get to vote, because of them, so maybe stop pretending this is a fair fight.

Because you keep conceeding to idiot racists and petty narcissist tyrants who don’t even believe in democracy whom you will never be able to meaningfully convince of anything anyway.

I’m from these dumb fuck regressives.

I know what I’m talking about.

You speak to them with insults, violence and threats, just barely polite enough to not immediately incite them to assault you on the spot, otherwise, they do not listen.

We keep losing because the 1/3rd of this country that the entire political system is rigged to over represent will always default to being dumbfuck greedy idiots.

You can’t convince them of anything consciously because they are the world grand masters at cognitive dissonance and delusion. They are too stupid to formulate a coherent worldview, you will not be able to change their worldview without making their lizard brain activate.

You can spend 10x the effort of explaining things to them like theyre a baby, it’ll stick for a day, then they’ll hear a shiboleth style conservative ‘joke’, a cultic thought stopping cliche, and that understanding you imparted them with immediately evaporates.

I repeat, they are literally too stupid to actually have a coherent worldview.

The Republicans know this.

Its why they consistently do racist/socialist/lqbtq scaremongering, and it consistently works.

They literally have enlarged amygdalas, the fear processing center of the brain.

They literally only truly understand fear.

Im sorry no, fuck these fucking brain dead morons.

I have less than 0 desire to learn their idiot vernacular to try to convince them of anything.

Just ask them to do a simple algebra problem in their head, and then spell the word procrastinate.

If they cannot do that, just tell them they are too stupid to make decisions, sit down, shut the fuck up, we’re gonna do this other thing now, and it doesn’t matter if you’re too dumb to understand what that means.

… how many of them are closeted gays and cucks?

They want to be dominated, so just dominate them. They only understand and respect force, so be forceful.

So you’re saying you hate waffles?!?!?!

Chaotic Good? Chaotic Neutral? Chaotic Evil?

… Chaotic Copper.

Just a copper gremlin, hahaha!

Somehow, Blockbuster returned.

They’re not taking it too far, you’re doing apologia by shifting the goal posts.

Markets != Capitalism.

Heavily regulated markets != Socialism.

See your first point there?

That’s the main difference.

Everything else that follows is going to be either a description of either how regulated/redistributive a capitalist economy is, or the precise mechanism of how capital is distributed/controlled, and how its proceeds are distributed in a socialist/communist economy.

Also your point 5 is basically incorrect. ‘Significantly’ incorrect.

In capitalism, you just get a cartel of extremely influential fianceers and central bankers that direct and manage capital flows and monetary policy via complex and esoteric means, which are certainly not decentralized.

‘Retail Investors’ / ‘Dumb Money’ are very well directed and herded by the signals the capital/monetary cartel puts out.

As an example, everyone’s 401k and pension plan either already has or is going to be buying SpaceX stocks, ie, be the bagholders for when that blows up. That’s happening because of the morass of rules and some recent changes to those rules that govern how all those funds must be managed.

You did read the ToS on all your investments, right? And keep up with all the changes to them?

Well obviously not, but, legally, upfront disclosure basically just is indemnity, so, you agreed to this. If you disagree that you agreed, good luck personally suing the company that has all of your money, and hundreds of billions of other people’s money.

You are also either ignoring or perhaps ignorant of large scale worker owned co-ops such as Mondragon, that are essentially a modern evolution of anarcho-syndicalism.

The ‘company’ itself has a form of democratic representative governance, where workers have a say in who their bosses will be, what the business strategy will be, etc, as opposed to the authoritarian governance internal model of most capitalist businesses.

Technically, Mondragon exists within a grander capitalist system and framework, but chances are that a wide swath of people would describe it as an operationalized form of socialism.

Also, it is not possible to have any societal or economic system that is value neutral… any complex system governing humans is going to be ultimately be created by humans, and is either going to intentionally or unintentionally create a framework that rewards some behaviors and activities an punishes others.

Any system of rewards and punishments just literally is a value system, we’re social mammals, we learn from the environment we are in.

But you then list prerequisites for capitalism… as if they are value systems? Where 1, often 2, hell, often all 3 of those prereqs are also prereqs/components of systems that call themselves socialist or communist?

Anyway yes you are correct that both socialist systems and capitalist systems have much variability within them, but again the key distinction between the two is who actually controls the capital, and how.

In capitalism, it is literally always a cartel. A cartel that often funds a lot of propoganda devoted to convincing people they’re not a cartel and its actually all a meritocracy.

In socialism, you get a range from… the state directly controls all capital and major industry… to the anarcho-syndicalist model of worker collectives ‘owning’ and governing their own capital.

Its a corpo slogan/saying that derives from trying to do good PR and also simultaneously incur literally no legal liability whatsoever.

There, that’s more precise.

But yeah, this is why so much corpo speak means damn near literally nothing by way of being immensely vague or misconstuable.

It literally only exists as a legal liability defense mechanism.

It is legalese.

‘Value’ as a verb could mean in nearly any concievable context or form.

It just means ‘is important to us in some unspecified way’… and then the actual specifics are in the ToS you probably don’t read.

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