• Klear@piefed.world
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    4 months ago

    It took me about 15 seconds to find an uncensored version, and it has more pixels to boot. Fuck off with this this dumb censorship.

  • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    4 months ago

    I live in NYC. I’ve seen plenty of folks sleeping on the ground, so getting rid of the benches doesn’t actually affect them that much.

    It only makes life tough on the people who don’t habitually lie on the concrete.

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      4 months ago

      It very much does in winter at least. Benches conduct significantly less heat away from your body than the ground, which can more easily cause death of hypothermia. Even with layers of insulation.

  • Saapas@piefed.zip
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    4 months ago

    I mean a subway station isn’t a homeless shelter and homeless people are unfortunately very often mentally ill or addicted, which can create danger for commuters.

    Shit situation though

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            4 months ago

            No, I was being a bit facetious in my response to the comment that the solution is housing the homeless, not making things less hospitable. It’s of course not within the Subway’s powers to actually solve homelessness so giving them flack for picking the less worse option with their limited options instead of magically solving the root of the problem is silly.

            Get mad at the people who are actually responsible for dealing with the root cause, not the ones needing to make tough choices dealing with the reality of it.

        • Tiresia@slrpnk.netBanned from community
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          4 months ago

          The subway should be suitable for disabled people to use. If that makes the subway a home for the homeless, that isn’t the fault of the choice to make the subway suitable for disabled people.

          Homeless people will find some place to stay. If you make places more unpleasant until homeless people find somewhere else to stay, and then you make that place unpleasant until they move away from there, etc., then all you’re doing is spending massive amounts of money to make the entire city unpleasant and still end up with homeless people in the least unpleasant spots.

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            4 months ago

            I agree with you almost completely. The issue is if the homeless prevents the space from being suitable for disabled people or other commuters, then this is the “less worse” option from the subway’s perspective. The subway is focused on creating a safe and clean commuter environment; it’s not within their power to solve homelessness so they have little choice but to make everything a bit worse for everyone to stop the problem they’re dealing with from making it even worse yet for everyone.

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        4 months ago

        Definitely agreed, but the subway station is for the commuters, not for solving the housing issue. It shouldn’t be that commuters are having a less safe commute because the city, state, whatever isn’t willing to deal with the housing/homeless issue.

        I mean removing the benches is a poor solution to that anyway. Should keep the benches but just make sure the station is actually serving the commuters

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      4 months ago

      why are they addicted???

      who sold them the thing they are addicted to???

      🪿

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        4 months ago

        Alcohol is sold in most stores from what I know. If drugs, I dunno, drug dealers?

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          4 months ago

          Pharmaceutical companies and Alcohol Brands are both run by the 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 bourgeoise 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

          you think drug dealers give out free samples?

          it usually starts with a prescription

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            4 months ago

            Pharmaceutical companies and Alcohol Brands are both run by the 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 bourgeoise 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

            Do you mean like owned by? Because the actual people running those places are just regular clerks and shit

            you think drug dealers give out free samples?

            Some do yeah. Often the dealer isn’t some random guy but a person you know or even a friend of yours. They might give you a hit

            it usually starts with a prescription

            They do fent or alcohol prescriptions 👀

            Not sure what this has to do with the subway benches though

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      4 months ago

      Getting rid of benches doesn’t get rid of the homeless. They’ll still be homeless with no where else to go without them. It just makes things worse for everyone.

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        4 months ago

        I mean for the transit authority it’s one tool, but I agree it’s not the best one. Preferably keep the benches but hire more security people.

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      4 months ago

      Sorry you got downvoted for speaking the truth. I bet every one of these virtue signaling commenters also distance themselves when they come across a bum on a bench.