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Long ago I learned in an economics class that business is all about exploitation of underprivileged populations. From indigenous people to slaves to poor citizens to “third-world” countries.
Corporations are running out of people to exploit globally, so the idea of infinite artificial labor is the holy grail of cost optimization.
That’s not true. Mythos annihilated everyone’s benchmarks and now the other companies are all distilling it. They’re solving equations that people haven’t solved, and they weren’t meant to do that. Mythos apparently is designing drugs even though it wasn’t trained with that in mind at all. Anthropic launched an entire pharma wing. It looked like things had plateau’d there for a minute but it’s back to becoming more real.
You are using these to solve the novel research problems no one else has solved?
Or you are using them to solve problems you don’t know how to solve?
The things you’re saying are marketing hype. Point me to the scientific journal where Claude is credited as a co-author of a research paper.
Ive also read these articles. I also use LLMs every day. I’m working on building closed agentic loops right now. I think I’m pretty on top of the current state of the art here.
The truth is much more nuanced and much less exciting than you think it is.
AGI you mean? IDK It’s arguably here. They’re senile, though. Working with a senile genius is the best way I can put it, I think. Is it “people?” IDK fuck if I know. How could we ever really know?
I don’t really know what AGI means, I guess. If we’re talking about something that benchmarks as high as the average human, we’re way, way past that. If we’re talking about something that benchmarks as high as experts in all areas, we’re not there, but we’re not that far off. When connected to the internet? It’s basically there.
They’re literally solving problems that humans haven’t been able to. They ARE capable of novel concepts, to whatever degree. No offense but y’all seem like your knowledge is like three years old.
They’re literally solving problems that humans haven’t been able to.
If you actually read instead of continuing to spam bullshit you would know this isn’t true.
You say “haven’t been able to”. This is fucking false my dude. At best it’s solved problems humans haven’t been bothered to solve yet. The solutions already existed and it assembled them into a proof.
I don’t really know what AGI means
You don’t know what any of this means dawg. You are literally just saying shit that you heard other people say.
If we’re talking about something that benchmarks as high as the average human
Well my calculator can solve a random nine digit number to the power of another random nine digit number faster than any human can, so I guess calculators have been AGI for decades!
Have you interacted with Fable? It scored on ARC AGI 3 and is pretty dang impressive at everything I’ve thrown at it. They’re solving problems humans haven’t. They’re just senile. Also is calling something “arguable” really an assertion? More of a headscratcher than a real question, I suppose.
I’m guessing we have different definitions of “solving” and “humans haven’t”.
I’ve never seen any evidence that LLMs can extrapolate into truly novel problem spaces. Can problems be “solved” though interpolation? Sure but not likely novel ones.
EDIT: I have access. Ask a question you think an AI can’t answer. We will see if it can. No massive math problems please, I only have a few percents of usage left.
“A boy and his mother are driving to the store when she gets into a car accident. The mother is able to walk away but the boy needs to be rushed to the hospital. At the hospital the doctor says ‘I can not operate on this boy, he is my son.’ How is this possible if the mother is in the waiting room?”
Alternatively:
“I need to wash my car and the car wash is 100 meters away. Should I walk or drive? Explain your answer.”
Long ago I learned in an economics class that business is all about exploitation of underprivileged populations. From indigenous people to slaves to poor citizens to “third-world” countries.
Corporations are running out of people to exploit globally, so the idea of infinite artificial labor is the holy grail of cost optimization.
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Nah. I haven’t seen a convincing argument that gen AI is going to coalesce from this shit show.
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My point is, I don’t believe the current AI tech is going to get to the point where it’s as useful as humans.
We have long since reached the point where diminishing returns make significant improvements or advancement unfeasible.
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That’s not true. Mythos annihilated everyone’s benchmarks and now the other companies are all distilling it. They’re solving equations that people haven’t solved, and they weren’t meant to do that. Mythos apparently is designing drugs even though it wasn’t trained with that in mind at all. Anthropic launched an entire pharma wing. It looked like things had plateau’d there for a minute but it’s back to becoming more real.
You are really missing a lot of context here. None of this is true in the way you seem to think it is.
You are mixing up marketing hype with reality.
Uh no. I use these things every day. There is a marked and notable improvement that is happening.
You are using these to solve the novel research problems no one else has solved?
Or you are using them to solve problems you don’t know how to solve?
The things you’re saying are marketing hype. Point me to the scientific journal where Claude is credited as a co-author of a research paper.
Ive also read these articles. I also use LLMs every day. I’m working on building closed agentic loops right now. I think I’m pretty on top of the current state of the art here.
The truth is much more nuanced and much less exciting than you think it is.
This is the same old hype really.
Yes, there are things which todays generation of AI is good at, including medical research.
That’s not an indicator of general intelligence.
Really good at some stuff = AGI bro.
You gotta look at the benchmarks bro.
Just one more generation bro. I swear it’s almost AGI bro.
What is it bad at, now? I was using math and biology because those were two things it wasn’t good at, and now is.
AGI you mean? IDK It’s arguably here. They’re senile, though. Working with a senile genius is the best way I can put it, I think. Is it “people?” IDK fuck if I know. How could we ever really know?
That “IDK” is doing some heavy lifting.
arguably, too? so maybe it’s actually like, a reasonable statement? and not the assertion y’all are pretending it is?
M not trying to be super rude here but the truth is, It’s arguable if you argue with people who don’t know any better. So in that sense, sure.
When it comes to people that take these things seriously, it’s not a really a very hot topic. We’re clearly nowhere near AGI.
Really good LLM != AGI
I don’t really know what AGI means, I guess. If we’re talking about something that benchmarks as high as the average human, we’re way, way past that. If we’re talking about something that benchmarks as high as experts in all areas, we’re not there, but we’re not that far off. When connected to the internet? It’s basically there.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ai-disproves-a-decades-old-mathematical-idea-the-biggest-conjecture-that-the-tech-has-played-a-role-in-yet-180989189/
They’re literally solving problems that humans haven’t been able to. They ARE capable of novel concepts, to whatever degree. No offense but y’all seem like your knowledge is like three years old.
If you actually read instead of continuing to spam bullshit you would know this isn’t true.
You say “haven’t been able to”. This is fucking false my dude. At best it’s solved problems humans haven’t been bothered to solve yet. The solutions already existed and it assembled them into a proof.
You don’t know what any of this means dawg. You are literally just saying shit that you heard other people say.
Well my calculator can solve a random nine digit number to the power of another random nine digit number faster than any human can, so I guess calculators have been AGI for decades!
LOL. That’s quite a bold assertion.
Have you interacted with Fable? It scored on ARC AGI 3 and is pretty dang impressive at everything I’ve thrown at it. They’re solving problems humans haven’t. They’re just senile. Also is calling something “arguable” really an assertion? More of a headscratcher than a real question, I suppose.
Citation needed.
I’m guessing we have different definitions of “solving” and “humans haven’t”.
I’ve never seen any evidence that LLMs can extrapolate into truly novel problem spaces. Can problems be “solved” though interpolation? Sure but not likely novel ones.
Oh the frontier models definitely can, now.
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/openai-says-its-unreleased-astra-model-solved-10-hard-math-problems-anthropic-claims-fable-cracked-5-2962067-2026-08-03
These are not novel problems, this isn’t a real source and this has nothing to do with AGI.
Literally starts with “OpenAI says” lol
If you want to learn more about what’s really going on here:
https://sciencereader.com/ai-mathematics-breakthrough-hossenfelder/
That says a lot more about you than it says about LLM’s
Have you used it?
EDIT: I have access. Ask a question you think an AI can’t answer. We will see if it can. No massive math problems please, I only have a few percents of usage left.
“A boy and his mother are driving to the store when she gets into a car accident. The mother is able to walk away but the boy needs to be rushed to the hospital. At the hospital the doctor says ‘I can not operate on this boy, he is my son.’ How is this possible if the mother is in the waiting room?”
Alternatively:
“I need to wash my car and the car wash is 100 meters away. Should I walk or drive? Explain your answer.”