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Just let people transfer their vote if their first preference doesn’t win. Then the unrepresented get suffrage, and the democrats get more votes.
Ask yourself why democrats are saying no to these free votes. Maybe the DNC wants us fighting as well if they dont implement this common sense electoral reform in the blue states they control?
I’d certainly be interested in historical examples of fascist propaganda meant specifically to divide the opposition (rather than simply gain more supporters).
Are you fuckin stupid or deliberately obtuse. Propaganda divided the populace to the point the average German didn’t care their Jewish neighbors were being systematically executed. But at this point it’s apparent you’re deliberately engaging in bad faith so go fuck yourself.
I mean, the historic Nazis basically presented themselves to the German political establishment as an anti-communist deal with the devil, and it worked well enough for them to take over Germany. Does that count?
I’d say not really. This deal with the devil tactic was ultimately about getting the German political establishment to support them in return for breaking communist skulls, so it falls pretty cleanly under “simply getting more supporters.” What would count would be the Nazis trying to split people who oppose them from other people who oppose them (so social democrats from liberals, communists from social democrats, etc) so that the size of the opposition isn’t changed but it’s directed less effectively. What you’re referring to is just selling oneself to potential supporters, which any political party/movement must do anyway.
Propaganda can have multiple purposes. It also drove a wedge between the far left and the center left. The same goes for the Nazis attacking LGBT people (sound familiar)?
It also drove a wedge between the far left and the center left.
No it didn’t. The people the Nazis were making deals with were squarely on the right of the German political spectrum. We’re talking monarchists, rightwing nationalists and the like. A good proxy for this would be seeing which parties voted for the Enabling Act of 1933, and as you’ll notice immediately if you’re familiar with German politics from this period they’re all rightwing. Hell, most of them weren’t even republican. The center left here was the SPD, and they all (the ones that made it to the Reichstag anyway) voted no, while the communists were too busy suffering state repression. Importantly, the wedge that was driven between these two parties was driven by themselves.
With the KPD effectively banned and the SPD violently suppressed, 1933 was in no way a fair election. I can’t say that it represents anything about how those parties related to one another. There had been no clear parliamentary majority for the past 3 years, so it was clear to everyone that a coalition was needed.
The Christian Center Party as a potential ally was certainly hampered by the Nazi rhetoric of LGBT people as “degenerate” and a threat to the birthrate.
It is the job of fascists to make sure any groups who might oppose them are too busy fighting each other to stop them.
Just let people transfer their vote if their first preference doesn’t win. Then the unrepresented get suffrage, and the democrats get more votes.
Ask yourself why democrats are saying no to these free votes. Maybe the DNC wants us fighting as well if they dont implement this common sense electoral reform in the blue states they control?
Uh… no? Of course they’d love it to happen, but that’s not how fascists historically operate.
You might wanna do a bit of reading and maybe edit that comment because uh, yeah it kinda is.
Like I said to the other person, if you have evidence to the contrary I’d love to see it.
Yeah, fascists never use propaganda to twist the public’s beliefs to their benefit. /S
I’d certainly be interested in historical examples of fascist propaganda meant specifically to divide the opposition (rather than simply gain more supporters).
How do you think the Germans were convinced to more or less go along with the Holocaust?
If you have a point make it I’m not going to read your mind.
Are you fuckin stupid or deliberately obtuse. Propaganda divided the populace to the point the average German didn’t care their Jewish neighbors were being systematically executed. But at this point it’s apparent you’re deliberately engaging in bad faith so go fuck yourself.
They called themselves National Socialists. There’s one example.
I mean, the historic Nazis basically presented themselves to the German political establishment as an anti-communist deal with the devil, and it worked well enough for them to take over Germany. Does that count?
I’d say not really. This deal with the devil tactic was ultimately about getting the German political establishment to support them in return for breaking communist skulls, so it falls pretty cleanly under “simply getting more supporters.” What would count would be the Nazis trying to split people who oppose them from other people who oppose them (so social democrats from liberals, communists from social democrats, etc) so that the size of the opposition isn’t changed but it’s directed less effectively. What you’re referring to is just selling oneself to potential supporters, which any political party/movement must do anyway.
Propaganda can have multiple purposes. It also drove a wedge between the far left and the center left. The same goes for the Nazis attacking LGBT people (sound familiar)?
No it didn’t. The people the Nazis were making deals with were squarely on the right of the German political spectrum. We’re talking monarchists, rightwing nationalists and the like. A good proxy for this would be seeing which parties voted for the Enabling Act of 1933, and as you’ll notice immediately if you’re familiar with German politics from this period they’re all rightwing. Hell, most of them weren’t even republican. The center left here was the SPD, and they all (the ones that made it to the Reichstag anyway) voted no, while the communists were too busy suffering state repression. Importantly, the wedge that was driven between these two parties was driven by themselves.
With the KPD effectively banned and the SPD violently suppressed, 1933 was in no way a fair election. I can’t say that it represents anything about how those parties related to one another. There had been no clear parliamentary majority for the past 3 years, so it was clear to everyone that a coalition was needed.
The Christian Center Party as a potential ally was certainly hampered by the Nazi rhetoric of LGBT people as “degenerate” and a threat to the birthrate.