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I notice you didn’t answer my question about if Rosa Luxemburg would have voted against the Nazis had she been alive to do so. I find that telling.
In any case, I didn’t shame you for not voting, I simply pointed out that not voting(not choosing) is also a choice and not necessarily a morally pure choice, especially when faced with fascists. Even if there are good reasons not to vote, it does not absolve you of the risks you take in not doing so. And the same goes for those who do vote, and perpetuate the current malaise and risk lending it legitimacy.
I tried to illustrate this with non-American examples, so you’d be less emotional about it, but given you’ve resorted to name calling and insults clearly I’ve failed.
I dont get sullied because trump is an utter cunt. I am sullied for the vote I gave biden who was also an utter cunt.
You are sullied if you vote for the establishment candidate, perpetuating the current status quo. You are sullied if you don’t vote against the fascist. Choisir entre la peste et le choléra, as I said above.
(cough you, lesser evil every day individual, via voting for the fascist wing of the democratic party and whom have been enabling the republican party since 1996 and longer cough)
You didn’t read my comments properly. If you had, you would have gathered I voted for neither Biden or Trump, as I am not American. In any case, I haven’t voted in anything other than a local election in two decades, which once again, wouldn’t surprise you, if you had read my comments.
When someone beats their partner 3 towns over are you responsible through the fact you were watching tv that night despite you knowing that the person was violent? No, of course not.
It’s a poor analogy, but maybe I can rescue it.
If you can save someone from being beaten and perhaps murdered, you should arguably do that. But if always stepping in, results in the abused never leaving their abuser and being murdered when you’re not able to save them, you have arguably enabled poor behaviour and done more harm than good.
There is no good or moral choice. As I said a few comments above, there are no easy answers.
I made no progress in my position. As mentioned above, I haven’t voted in a national election in twenty years.
I am simply reiterating my comments from above, in the hopes you will finally understand them. I’m at least glad you’ve finally caught on I’m not telling you to vote for the lesser evil, the rest not so much, but oh well.
Let’s leave it there. This conversation wasn’t productive, that won’t change.
when you espouse voting for the ‘least terrible candidate
Back to that again. Didn’t happen.
In fact, I compared the choice between voting and not voting, to a choice between plague and cholera.
I doubt you have the masters/PHD in mathemetics to follow it.
You can’t spell mathematics… I don’t think I’ll be attending your statistics lecture.
the poor misguided anarchists who have been fighting against fascism for generations.
If you tried to fight your way out of a cardboard box, you’d probably end arguing with the instruction manual. Don’t think we need your help fighting international fascism.
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I notice you didn’t answer my question about if Rosa Luxemburg would have voted against the Nazis had she been alive to do so. I find that telling.
In any case, I didn’t shame you for not voting, I simply pointed out that not voting(not choosing) is also a choice and not necessarily a morally pure choice, especially when faced with fascists. Even if there are good reasons not to vote, it does not absolve you of the risks you take in not doing so. And the same goes for those who do vote, and perpetuate the current malaise and risk lending it legitimacy.
I tried to illustrate this with non-American examples, so you’d be less emotional about it, but given you’ve resorted to name calling and insults clearly I’ve failed.
Good luck to you.
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You are sullied if you vote for the establishment candidate, perpetuating the current status quo. You are sullied if you don’t vote against the fascist. Choisir entre la peste et le choléra, as I said above.
You didn’t read my comments properly. If you had, you would have gathered I voted for neither Biden or Trump, as I am not American. In any case, I haven’t voted in anything other than a local election in two decades, which once again, wouldn’t surprise you, if you had read my comments.
It’s a poor analogy, but maybe I can rescue it.
If you can save someone from being beaten and perhaps murdered, you should arguably do that. But if always stepping in, results in the abused never leaving their abuser and being murdered when you’re not able to save them, you have arguably enabled poor behaviour and done more harm than good.
There is no good or moral choice. As I said a few comments above, there are no easy answers.
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I made no progress in my position. As mentioned above, I haven’t voted in a national election in twenty years.
I am simply reiterating my comments from above, in the hopes you will finally understand them. I’m at least glad you’ve finally caught on I’m not telling you to vote for the lesser evil, the rest not so much, but oh well.
Let’s leave it there. This conversation wasn’t productive, that won’t change.
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Back to that again. Didn’t happen.
In fact, I compared the choice between voting and not voting, to a choice between plague and cholera.
You can’t spell mathematics… I don’t think I’ll be attending your statistics lecture.
If you tried to fight your way out of a cardboard box, you’d probably end arguing with the instruction manual. Don’t think we need your help fighting international fascism.
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