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If you’ve got a gaming GPU, bazzite is built on kde fedora and takes away 99% of the problems I had with the old school distro. It’s an atomic distro so you can’t fuck up the base is nearly as easily.
Nah, I’ve got an ancient machine with too little memory. However, you reminded me that I might want to look into NixOS just to check out how it works, for better or worse.
Fedora is a very early adopter of new technologies, often even earlier than Arch. They were the first to adopt PulseAudio, the first to use Wayland sessions by default, the first to drop Xorg, and will likely be the first to drop lib32 packages. Any issues that may arise from major upgrades or changes, you are most likely to be exposed to them on Fedora.
Eh it’s kinda fine most of the time. But if you really don’t have time to fix dependencies (via dnf) and constantly leave it for later, many broken things accumulate. It’s usually fine (and usually works for at least a few years without problems, even on arch).
Thanks again for the info. However, I can’t remember when I ever had to ‘fix dependency problems’ with APT. Maybe when I ran Debian Testing for a while, or if I added one too many external repos, or if I really really wanted to run two explicitly conflicting packages — but still it’s such a foreign thing that I can’t recall if it actually ever occurred. Apparently APT’s reputation for most solid dependency resolution among package managers is quite well deserved.
As an APT user I’m sure you’ve also used PPAs and third party repositories for additional software and drivers? Pretty sure Ubuntu likes to add some by itself.
Uh-huh. And how long do I need to run the VM before I run into an ‘isn’t stable’ situation? Half a year, a year, more? Am I supposed to use the VM as my main machine during that time?
Just install it, try to install KDE (Gnome is the main desktop of Fedora), see if it works, if you like it, and if you can tolerate the slow ass package manager that is yum.
Should take you about 30 minutes; no need to be rude about it.
Elaborate please. I’m weighing installing Fedora for KDE. What kind of fucking around should I expect?
If you’ve got a gaming GPU, bazzite is built on kde fedora and takes away 99% of the problems I had with the old school distro. It’s an atomic distro so you can’t fuck up the base is nearly as easily.
Nah, I’ve got an ancient machine with too little memory. However, you reminded me that I might want to look into NixOS just to check out how it works, for better or worse.
Fedora is a very early adopter of new technologies, often even earlier than Arch. They were the first to adopt PulseAudio, the first to use Wayland sessions by default, the first to drop Xorg, and will likely be the first to drop lib32 packages. Any issues that may arise from major upgrades or changes, you are most likely to be exposed to them on Fedora.
Got it, thanks.
Eh it’s kinda fine most of the time. But if you really don’t have time to fix dependencies (via dnf) and constantly leave it for later, many broken things accumulate. It’s usually fine (and usually works for at least a few years without problems, even on arch).
Edit: also the other comments.
Thanks. Just to clarify, by ‘fixing dependencies’ you mean upgrading the packages?
Also that but, occasionally cleaning leftovers and fixing dependancy problems.
Thanks again for the info. However, I can’t remember when I ever had to ‘fix dependency problems’ with APT. Maybe when I ran Debian Testing for a while, or if I added one too many external repos, or if I really really wanted to run two explicitly conflicting packages — but still it’s such a foreign thing that I can’t recall if it actually ever occurred. Apparently APT’s reputation for most solid dependency resolution among package managers is quite well deserved.
The worst I’ve ever had happen could be fixed with the (prompted) --allow-erasing flag, and I messed around with additional repositories a lot
Gotta say again, as an APT user, I have no idea what “messaged around with additional repositories” means.
typo, messed instead of messaged?
Possibly yes, but I don’t think that makes the overall statement distinctly better.
As an APT user I’m sure you’ve also used PPAs and third party repositories for additional software and drivers? Pretty sure Ubuntu likes to add some by itself.
Just use the kiddy distro. We don’t have time for your questions! 🧐
Also there are probably thirty actual decent KDE distributions. OpenSuSE is one of the very old ones, there are many others.
Just try it for yourself in a VM and you will see.
That is an amazing non-answer. Very impressive in its uselessness. Good job.
Uh-huh. And how long do I need to run the VM before I run into an ‘isn’t stable’ situation? Half a year, a year, more? Am I supposed to use the VM as my main machine during that time?
Just install it, try to install KDE (Gnome is the main desktop of Fedora), see if it works, if you like it, and if you can tolerate the slow ass package manager that is yum.
Should take you about 30 minutes; no need to be rude about it.
You can even try it in your browser if you think setting up a VM is too much time wasted: https://distrosea.com/de/start/fedora-44-kde/
Come on man. I know what KDE looks like. Running a VM for a bit won’t help me learn what issues occur with Fedora sometimes.