ppl trying to defend LLMs as if the only problem with “gen” AI is who it benefits under the inherently- erm- capitalistic nature of capitalism lol Its tiring.

  • cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zoneOP
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    I would say yes, yes, and yes. Mainly I’m trying to say that even if the environmental and societal factors were solved, LLMs would still be pretty fundamentally fucked, as I also said in another comment in thus thread.

    I thought about this a while ago and while its more subjective and personal, I hope it helps illustrate what I’m getting at. If someone subconsciously, or even intentionally, put a piece of a song or words or whatever that I wrote into their own work, I’d feel downright honoured. I’d appreciate some credit if possible (I already think lack of attribution is an issue among creatives sometimes), but even if not, I’m happy knowing my art had enough of an effect on someone to weasel it’s way into their own! That’s amazing! On the other hand, if a piece of something I made similarly wound up in someone’s own “creation” because of an LLM, I’d feel empty, as it means nothing. Less than nothing, in fact. I’d be really upset by it.

    I hope that helps?

    EDIT: sorry, this comment is putting the cart before the horse, as they say. Its more of an explanation of how I’d feel knowing my work was fed into a fascist plagiarism machine, rather then an answer to the original question.

    • maria ~@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      the OC asked why its fascistic and you answered essentially with “when it outputs something trained on my data, it feels bad, thus fascistic”.

      Maybe I’m missing something, but not liking something doesn’t make is fascist.

      EDIT: I guess imma add this: fascism is bad. but bad doesn’t necessarily mean it’s fascist.

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        I can see where this guy is coming from, after all, the collection and conglomeration of everybody’s information is very fascist-esque (case in point Flock), but reading their second comment I’m not even sure if that’s what they mean

        They’re honestly kind of just rambling about it not feeling good to be plagiarised from, which comes across as a little odd