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They misunderstand that science is always striving for evidence and if something isn’t 100% irrefutably proven it doesn’t mean that alternative hypotheses should be considered equally viable.
They don’t understand that a line is drawn in the scientific community based on current evidence and there is no secret cabal preventing research into plant consciousness. They ignore scientists who study plant electrical signaling who explicitly distinguish between complex biochemical response mechanisms and centralised subjective experience.
They don’t even acknowledge that even if plants could be considered conscious they would have levels of it below that of your average mammal.
I’ve tagged them as “Plants are conscious advocate” so I can take any opinion they push with a handful of salt.
Consciousness is very poorly understood, because we don’t understand brains very well at all.
However, because we don’t know how it works, it’s possible that every system with chemical reactions, moving parts etc, might be conscious. It’s a bit of a mind fuck.
that’s the thing: no one knows. No one agrees. Not even vegans. It doesn’t stop them pushing out misinformation about it.
For all the facts we do actually have and agree on i could make just as many claims that there is consciousness as they claim there isn’t.
Meanwhile you have anti abortion claims that life starts at conception. This makes an assumption of when consciousness starts. Still not fact.
And scientists don’t want to be withheld from work on plants for the fear of ethics. (Yet they tear mice apart)They will go as far as make no effort of reference or crosscheck even on the discussion of consciousness(even shows in the above link at the bottom of the study) like they know so little they can’t even begin with reference that was ever agreed upon and burry any that contradict their hubris while making an assumption on consciousness.
All three of these groups are in constant contradiction depending on comfort level of ethics around consciousness. It’s like a shitty ballet around a non fact.
man what
Don’t even bother, I’ve tried.
They misunderstand that science is always striving for evidence and if something isn’t 100% irrefutably proven it doesn’t mean that alternative hypotheses should be considered equally viable.
They don’t understand that a line is drawn in the scientific community based on current evidence and there is no secret cabal preventing research into plant consciousness. They ignore scientists who study plant electrical signaling who explicitly distinguish between complex biochemical response mechanisms and centralised subjective experience.
They don’t even acknowledge that even if plants could be considered conscious they would have levels of it below that of your average mammal.
I’ve tagged them as “Plants are conscious advocate” so I can take any opinion they push with a handful of salt.
Consciousness is very poorly understood, because we don’t understand brains very well at all.
However, because we don’t know how it works, it’s possible that every system with chemical reactions, moving parts etc, might be conscious. It’s a bit of a mind fuck.
Sure, for a generous definition of “possible”. However I don’t see how you get from there to “either all are, or all are not”.
Like, you could at some point have said we don’t understand magnetism. You couldn’t from that argue that either all metals are magnetic or none are.
that’s the thing: no one knows. No one agrees. Not even vegans. It doesn’t stop them pushing out misinformation about it.
For all the facts we do actually have and agree on i could make just as many claims that there is consciousness as they claim there isn’t.
Meanwhile you have anti abortion claims that life starts at conception. This makes an assumption of when consciousness starts. Still not fact.
And scientists don’t want to be withheld from work on plants for the fear of ethics. (Yet they tear mice apart)They will go as far as make no effort of reference or crosscheck even on the discussion of consciousness(even shows in the above link at the bottom of the study) like they know so little they can’t even begin with reference that was ever agreed upon and burry any that contradict their hubris while making an assumption on consciousness.
All three of these groups are in constant contradiction depending on comfort level of ethics around consciousness. It’s like a shitty ballet around a non fact.