it’s almost like a two party system was a bad idea
Almost? Politics isn’t a sporting event. Seeing them turn everything into black or white is so close minded. Most things have many shades of grey. We should have that many candidates to choose from.
i should’ve added an /s
Increasingly more popular opinion: the US government takeover committed by the Trump oligarchy is as much the result of incompetence of the Democratic party as it was a plan of evil ‘geniuses’.
I’d say it’s entirely dems fault as they were dropping the ball consistently since years. Trump should’ve been an easy opponent but he ended up as president second time
People wanted change. Trump promised change, the democrats promised more of the same.
Maybe democrats should promise change?
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My opinion on that is totally relevant to my opinion on this. /s
Next time we disagree, please bring a valid argument instead to discrediting because of something i said somewhere else.
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Yeah. There was this drunk driver that hit a kid. Stupid parents. It’s just the result of incompetence of the parenting party than a result of drunk driving.
Yeah. Except the parents insisted their child play in the middle of the street at 1am and instead of condemning the drunk driver, they claim drunk driving is part of life
They lost to Donald fucking Trump. The biggest loser of all time. And they lost twice.
I dont think that is a fair comparison. Also i am not saying it is only the fault of the opposing party, i’m saying it is as much as. It is naive to think this would have been able no matter what the Democratic party did in the years/decades leading up to the first Trump presidency. Sure it is easy to talk in hindsight, I’ll give them that. I’m also not saying they wanted this to happen. But if the parents of the drunk driver never gave their child a good talk on the dangers of drinking, that accident is partly theirs to blame too.
Instead of attacking? Are you cowboys ok? Apparently you still don’t understand shit if this is the trash that gets posted. Wake. The. Fuck. Up.
You live in a violent dictatorship, there is no voting system you fucking dipshits.
Just say you despise Americans and stop pretending to want better for them
Yes I do from the bottom of my heart, especially because my country is a US colony. Am I not allowed to hate burgerman?
If we didn’t despise you before, we do now.
Trust me no one missed that. Bigots can get fucked.
American education system at work of you think that’s what a bigot is.
Because they are, for the most part, wealth class. Average citizen getting robbed or screwed over isn’t a concern.
Why rock the boat and risk getting noticed in a negative way when you can do nothing and enjoy your privileged place!
They are complicit controlled opposition. Their only job is to keep the left out of power. That’s why they’re more upset about socialists than Trump, ultimately Trump is on their side and the socialists are not.
All part of the plan… I think 🤔.
Here is the advice of James Carville, a highly respected political consultant for the Democratic party. He recommends that Dems roll over and play dead.
The man is responsible for the Democrat’s major shift towards neoliberalism, as well as a key figure in killing all progressive movement in the Dem party. He’s even doing it now, saying the people do not want progressive policies like taxing the wealthy or cutting weapon shipments to Isreal.
the DINO party serves the billionaires, and israel mostly.
Until the genocide, everyone served Israel.
I stand by my observation Israel is not a Jewish nation, it’s a owner-class nation.
Israel is a terrorist state and the fact they call themselves Jewish is antisemitism… They kill Muslims is also antisemitism.
I’m an Australian and I hate every religion!
Israel calling itself Jewish on its own is not anti-semitic, the doing things that makes everybody hate them while calling themselves Jewish is what makes it anti-semitic.
Democrats have been setting out to lose since Obama left office. Trump 2020 was the only one to beat them at their own game.
Oh, they were losing while Obama was president too. A Supreme Court Justice and the Heritage Foundation’s health insurance reforms (aka Obamacare/ACA) come to mind.
I think democrats are controlled opposition, but do people not understand that they currently aren’t in power?
The fed is run by the GOP. Dems are only enough of a problem that Trump has to write EOs for every goddamned thing.
If op bothered to post the whole thread you’d see they are doing something but a complicit media doesn’t report on any of that.
This kind of propaganda has worked wonders on all the brightest folks here. Doing its job superbly.
do people not understand that they currently aren’t in power?
There’s not much people understand. But they will 100% confidently talk about anything like they know it all.
Maybe if Biden had written EOs for every goddamned thing we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Most of us don’t want our government to work that way
So you want the president to seize more power than they legally have and for that escalation to continue whether a fascist is in office or not. Yeah great plan.
Let republicans do it only, then. Great plan!
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Maybe if Obama had done something about Russian election interference on behalf of trump in 2016, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
He didn’t have the advantage of SCOTUS backing everything he wrote.
In fact, the US Supreme Court actively opposed him.
Well it’s a good thing he didn’t try then. Things would be so much worse.
Biden was a centrist Democrat who tried to get progressive in his presidential term, but yes, it was a too little too late.
He lost us abortion.
who tried to get progressive
Uhhh… What?
I’m agreeing with you, but I’m also pointing out that “too little, too late” is being very, verrrrry generous.
Biden had the perfect slam-dunkingly solid golden sure win opportunity(s) to take out FatCunt ChildRaper for a myriad of blatantly illegal things. The main stars of which were the televised attempt at an insurrection, and the stealing of top secret documents which were stored in an unlocked room next to a fax…A FAX!!!.
Plus many other things that would be just as easy to prosecute because, let’s face it, the orange imbecile and family aren’t criminal geniuses.
But, no, instead of going for the tRUMP from day one the old dipshit just slow walked that bullshit for years…then it wasn’t his problem anymore.
I didn’t exactly like Biden when he was elected, but I now actively hate the guy for doing fuck all. The whole world is a much worse place because Biden is a coward.
The democratic elite are in bed with Epstein
I begged my congressman to support articles of impeachment. His response was basically that they don’t have the votes, so why bother? He even said that if they did, it would be performative and would play into persecution rhetoric for Trump.
So that’s where we are now. The only people with the political power to oust a tyrant have thrown in the towel.
I tried to reason with him that it matters. Even if they don’t have the votes to convict. Impeach him once a week of you have to. Persecute the motherfucker!
But no, I guess re-election to Congress is more important.
Fucking joke.
This kind of Dem is such a fucking pussy. Literally more worried about offending constiutents who would never vote for them in the first place.
would play into persecution rhetoric for Trump.
The whole fucking point of him doing the persecution rhetoric is to stop people attacking him, and they’ve played right into his hands.
PersecuteProsecute the motherfucker!FTFY. It’s only “persecute” if it’s unjust.
I tried to reason with him that it matters. Even if they don’t have the votes to convict. Impeach him once a week of you have to. Persecute the motherfucker!
100% agree. Performative it may be, but doing it every single time he does something to warrant it, which is daily at this point, at least sends a message that this shit is unacceptable. Doing nothing is tacitly agreeing with it. It’s baffling.
So that’s where we are now. The only people with the political power to oust a tyrant have thrown in the towel.
If only we lived in a democracy and could give people power with our vote…
you did? this is what you voted for?
It’s why democrats lose as much as they do, they don’t seize opportunities
And look at the vote for releasing the Epstein files! Obviously, they ‘didn’t have the votes’ for that, either … but once they tried, even a bunch of Republicans were on board.
At least fucking try.
It really goes to show how both parties have been captured by corporate and religious interests, and everyone’s on the take and making bank on insider trading.
Nearly the entire system is rotten, bar a few who seem to still be holding on to do good for the people (AOC, Bernie, Mamdani, El-Sayed, Tallarico, etc).
Nearly the entire system is rotten, bar a few who seem to still be holding on to do good for the people (AOC, Bernie, Mamdani, El-Sayed, Tallarico, etc).
who seem to still be holding on to do good but aren’t actually much as they keep using and endorsing the private social network of a nazi where this post is also taken from. Downvote X reposts and don’t share them or the rotten system it’s on you too.
Well it does feel like this cycle, more and more of the good folks are winning and showing what government can do for people. Here’s to hoping that they keep winning and take over.
It’s going to be a question of momentum: will those on the left of the party keep pushing back against corporate interests and organising at a grassroots level. I sincerely hope that the momentum grows, but the power of the money being used against them is a pretty terrible beast. It’s definitely an interesting crossroads at the very least.
“Get money out of politics” is only going to increase in popularity until there’s some action. My concern is that a faux-populist democrat will become president, pass some empty reforms, declare victory, and then we’ll be back here again in 15-20 years, when our democracy might be even weaker. OR that Republicans will end democracy before anything can happen.
Unpopular opinion: AOC, Bernie and Mamdani are at this point preventing a revolution the US so badly needs. As long as there’s a possible progressive win of the Democratic Party, people will live in the delusion that this regime can be uninstalled via democratic processes.
AOC can and Bernie are holding us back from revolution? You are under the extreme delusion that Americans are anywhere near being ready to revolt. They are not and won’t be until they’re unemployed and starving just like almost every other country that revolts against its government.
You need to get the off the Internet and the mods need to start banning accounts that call for violence. If you think that civil war will make things better you are completely detached from reality.
Yes, let’s ban dissenting voices. The orange man would love you for it.
You’re correct on the revolution needing hunger, but that may be closer than you think.
Even if I were to call for violence, and I’m not, what would it make for a difference if your theory is correct? And what good is sitting idly by and vote if the other side is using serious violence every day?
I don’t mind you having an opinion opposing to mine, I mind you calling for mods becoming thought police, as if we don’t already have enough power tripping mods around.
I think they would if they had a leader to say, hey… enough is enough the government is filled with fucking pedophiles!
But we don’t have that leader. So now it’s sticking your neck out to get shot by ice and democrats won’t even defend your dead ass when it happens.
El-Sayed has a nasty little clinger-on he needs to get rid of, but then he’ll be set.
do you not question the fact that your talking point is directly from fox news?
Hey quick counterquestion: How many people died in Tiananmen Square on June 4th 1989?
so the answer is no i guess
No, the answer is “not only are you completely wrong, you’re being wrong on purpose because you’re a pro-dictatorship propaganda parrot and it’s painfully obvious.”
Maybe try spreading your lies on a non-ml account next time. Y’all make it too easy to spot you.
right, i guess there’s no point in continuing this conversation if you’ve deemed me automatically wrong because of my instance and can’t even tell me why i’m wrong
that alongside the fact that when confronted for parroting fox news talking points you attempt shift the conversation to something that happened in china 37 years ago
clearly not acting in good faith, have a nice day
Why doe Bernie need 3 homes?
Why doesn’t he sell 2 of them and donate the profits to help feed the homeless?
Why?
Because Bernie talks a good game and you idiots believe him.
Actions speak louder than words.
Bernie cares for no one but himself.
Three day old account. Perhaps this is not the place you belong. Might wanna find a different social media to infect.
Lol nice try
I asked a specific question.
Why does Bernie have 3 homes?
That’s not an answer because you don’t have one.
Conservatives are evil and not welcome here.
So do I and I’m not rich.
Now sum up them in value
“Do I own three residences? Yeah, I do,” Sanders said. He explained that he lives in Burlington, Vermont, in a “middle-class neighborhood, nice house,” and owns another home in Washington, D.C., like most senators do. He also has a summer camp on Lake Champlain. “That’s it,” Sanders stated, noting that his homes are far from luxurious. “They’re middle-class houses.”
Not that hard to find the answer.
Bernie’s position isn’t that people should be forbidden from owning multiple homes or that anyone who has money must give most of it away. His argument is about the rules of the system. Higher taxes on the wealthy, stronger wages, worker protections and making basics like healthcare and housing more accessible. “Why doesn’t he sell two houses and feed the homeless?” confuses charity with policy. He could sell them tomorrow and it would have virtually no effect on homelessness. If you want to criticize Bernie, criticize whether his policies would actually work. Owning three homes isn’t by itself a contradiction of what he advocates
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You’re not great at trolling
I mean sure, just make shit up I guess why not
'Murican oligarchy owning pretty much the entire country
This mf: “WHY DOES BERNIE HAVE THREE HOUSES??? WAAAAH!!!”
Except he didn’t stop. Sanders has continued arguing for higher taxes on wealthy Americans and against extreme concentrations of wealth after becoming a millionaire himself. Becoming wealthy isn’t inconsistent with saying wealthy people (including yourself) should pay more. Criticize the policy if you want, but this ‘he became a millionaire and suddenly went quiet’ line isn’t true and just isn’t a serious argument
Can you provide a source on this? Can you show when he became a millionaire and when he stopped talking about millionaires? That’s a pretty strong claim to make. Please provide a source.
Why does Bernie have 3 homes?
A home in his state, a home in the capital and a vacation home.
Why doesn’t he sell 2 of them and donate the profits to help feed the homeless?
Because he isn’t anti capitalist. He is anti unfettered capitalism.
Homelessness, poverty and hunger are symptoms of the problem of inequality he wants to solve. Selling his vacation home does nothing to solve that problem.
He has a home in Vermont, his primary residence. He has a home in Washington DC, where he works. He has a home on Lake Champlain, where he vacations.
The first two are necessities. The third, a small, reasonable luxury.
What answer were you hoping for?
He can have a dozen homes and triple the cars; if hes still genuinely fighting for peoples rights and begging to tax the wealthy, im all for him.
Its not hypocritical for a US senator to have three homes. It is incredibly evil to vote against what is best for your constituents, which is what most other senators seem to be doing.
Another piece of shit to block!
I’m seeing a lot of words, so that begs the question: what have you done to support socialist policy in your national government?
AOC? Nah, she’s been made to heel to Nancy’s and Hakeem’s wishes. Buckled at pretty much the first opportunity too. Still says some nice things, but she’s useless as a challenge to the status quo. Made a useful tool of the establishment.
Bernie? Well, he tucked tail and quit fighting after the party establishment colluded and sabotaged his campaigns. 2020 was especially egregious, and he still agreed to back Biden. Again, says the right things at times, but far less a real challenge to the status quo now than he ever was.
The others you mentioned? Mamdani can be a good pragmatic example, wish him the best, but he’s limited to the Senate at the federal level if he aspires to higher office. El-Sayed, too early to tell. Talarico, I assume you mean? Tough row to hoe for a few months, probably a long shot, but he’s been a democrat for years. That party is really irredeemable.
I wish I knew the real solution to this electoral mess. I keep hoping for a really hard charging third party challenge that can bridge the divide. May wait my entire life at this point.
Mamdani can be a good pragmatic example, wish him the best, but he’s limited to the Senate at the federal level if he aspires to higher office.
Mamdani could still be the president. The Constitutional requirements for being president are pretty weak and easily bypassed. You can have someone else officially run, and they run on the platform, “I’m going to hold the pen and do whatever this guy tells me to.” You select someone who would have no political legitimacy on their own, so they’re completely dependent on the real power behind the throne. If Trump decides to run in 2028, this will be the mechanism he uses. But Mamdani or Obama could use the same mechanism if they wish.
The Constitutional limits on presidential eligibility are pretty trivial to bypass.
This is ridiculous and clearly against the intent of the constitution. I do hope scotus rules against this though I’m not confident they will with trump.
The Democrats and Republicans are owned and controlled by the same wealthy douchebags.
With a high degree of overlap to the Epstein client list.
They’re doing exactly the job they’re being paid for.
If Jimmy Carter were alive today, we would confidently express all of the benevolence of the DSA and rub it in Trump’s grifter Pinocchio nose.