• Waterpumpee@lemmus.org
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    3 months ago

    In the defense of the North Korea outrage, they lobotomised the kid and sent the dying body back to US.

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        3 months ago

        It’s bizarre to see somebody believe that not only will a former Olympic athlete be sentenced for touching paint but to honestly believe he could be beaten into brain damage and die from it.

        Chances are the guy walks away scot free and then sues the US Government.

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      3 months ago

      Pretty sure there were missing teeth.

      Edit: not Otto. Might have been another prisoner. Or I’m confusing it with World War Z and how North Korea solved the zombie crisis by pulling everyone’s teeth.

      Edit edit: ok, he’s the one I read about but these details aren’t in wikipedia and may be suspect.

      They said Otto was deaf, blind, jerking uncontrollably and making “inhuman” sounds when they met him on a plane.

      His teeth also looked like they had been rearranged with pliers, his father said.

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/he-totally-deformed-otto-warmbiers-11242029

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        3 months ago

        He wasn’t literally surgically lobotomized no - but he did have extremely severe neurological damage from an unknown source which put him in a vegetative state that he never regained consciousness from. If it was done by DPRK intentionally or not isn’t known, but he did suffer those injuries during his time imprisoned under their supervision, and generally it’s held that harm to a prisoner is the fault of the captor.

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          3 months ago

          Yes, that’s not “North Korea lobotomising him”. Hence fake news. A lobotomy cuts off the front of the brain

          It would be the first time North Korea has harmed an American in this context and it’s pretty likely to be unintentional if they wanted to trade prisoners

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            3 months ago

            What a tedious semantic argument. An inaccurate use of a term in an informal setting that nonetheless quite accurately describes the symptoms he experienced, is not fake news - it’s not even news, it’s an internet comment. It’s been corrected now.

            it’s pretty likely to be unintentional

            It’s generally unintentional to beat someone and have them wind up in a vegetative state.

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              3 months ago

              See the other comment from someone else, they were not beaten at all and the one anonymous report that he was appears to be fabricated

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    3 months ago

    I want to add (without prison sentences… for now) all the push of Europe to do the internet surveillance China style, after we have criticized it so much.

    Is so sad how “autocratic government surveillance” suddenly becomes “protecting the children”…

    Fuck politicians, hope they all die a terrible death. They deserve all the hate in the world and then a bit more.

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      Is so sad how “autocratic government surveillance” suddenly becomes “protecting the children”…

      The saddest part about it is how well it works. People are still falling for this shit. We never learn anything.

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      3 months ago

      What are the chances that these people will get pardoned, etc, when(if) normality returns?

      Also what’s the chances that the judge who handed down these long and unfair sentences will get any repercussions for being so obviously corrupt?

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        3 months ago

        Honestly 50/50

        You can’t really bounce back from the bullshit that has just ensued immediately, it’s also kinda apparent to your average leftist that the democratic party is kind spineless as fuck when it comes to the right, so to have judges IN TEXAS MIND YOU bounce back from their previous decisions? Not gonna be too easy

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          it’s also kinda apparent to your average leftist that the democratic party is kind spineless complicit as fuck when it comes to the right, so to have judges IN TEXAS MIND YOU bounce back from their previous decisions? Not gonna be too easy

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    3 months ago

    If you’re traveling to NK you deserve to be lobotomized.
    What kind of lunatic go there for vacation?

    Also, just for some context, he was part of Hillel. Which is kind of like a jewish hitler youth. It, like aipac, are part of a large well funded effort to sanitize Israel activities.

    Which in many ways raises my suspicions about what was really going on with that whole episode.