1st panel quote from ENT s2e6 “Marauders” with images from s3e19 “Damage”

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    Nah, I’m currently re-watching Babylon 5 and then planning to re-watch Battlestar Galactica after that.

    I don’t think ENT is going to get a fouth attempt. I’m kind of impressed it never stuck. I don’t think I find any of the characters likeable enough.

    Hoshi and Trip are the most likeable, but they’re very American. In fact they’re all very American. Even Malcolm feels like an American idea of a stuffy British guy. I could picture any of them in a frat house.

    I might even go as far as to say, ENT is a Star Trek that makes no effort towards internationalism… And that the declining quality of Star Trek comes from a similar drift being repeated.

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      Dr. Phlox is the real standout. Open to exploring human cultures, but stands up for his own morals/priciples.

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        I don’t like his eyes or his voice, or that he gets more stretchy as the show goes on. I also don’t like that he’s the only heavily made up (make up wise) crew member. I don’t find him particularly likeable.

        I get that it’s part of the premise though, that ENT is trying to be a more coarse, and under developed Trek, so of course most aliens aren’t going to be signing up.

        Speaking of which, I’m not really a fan of the Xindi as the bad guys… it’s almost like, it’s all a Holodeck program Riker or someone is writing.

        /cough cough /

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          Seems like every time Phlox does something related to medicine it’s also extremely unethical, like creating Sim or unilaterally condemning a sapient species to death.

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      Don’t you know in the future, everyone is American? C’mon.

      i’m with Umthatguy, though. Phlox is my favorite.

      “<creepy smile> OPTIMISM, Captain!”

      I thoroughly enjoy sublte critques of humanity through the lense of “aliens trying to figure us out”. Like the bab5 scene where Londo sings the Hokey Pokey and gets irate because it’s a totally mid-tier song that 'everybody" knows.

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        Like the bab5 scene where Londo sings the Hokey Pokey and gets irate because it’s a totally mid-tier song that 'everybody" knows.

        “…and then they put their left hand out! They’ve undone their previous progress! It makes no sense!”

        It’s a great rant. Now I need a Babylon 5 rewatch. Thanks!

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      I have to ask, which Battlestar Galactica?

      I tried to watch the 70’s version, but I just couldn’t get into it. I’ve heard that others prefer it, so maybe it comes down to what you saw first.

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        I’ve never tried the original Battlestar Galactica, so I’ll definitely be watching the newer one.

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        70’s BSG is an acquired taste. You have to be on board with the Buck Rogers style cheese, and the heavy handed Mormon influence (including the rampant amount of old white men in charge). Once you get past that, its light hearted fun in the face of extinction.

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          The first episode of the 70s BSG had me hooked. Humanity all alone in the universe facing extinction.

          And…in the second (third?) epsiode they put their feet up in a space pub full of thriving sentient aliens.

          The tone whiplash was strong.

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      BSG was so bad. It just wanted to be some teen drama in space ooh sexy woman edgy show, it’s everything wrong with early 2000s media.