• arctanthrope@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I see the point, but I don’t think intellectual elitism is the same as anti-anti-intellectualism. I think intellectual elitism creates a sense of alienation from science that in fact leads to anti-intellectualism. “I have more specialized knowledge than you” is not the same as “I’m better than you,” and acknowledging that is the solution

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      2 months ago

      Right, but people will call nearly anything elitism these days. The reason schools don’t offer accelerated learning programs for students who aren’t challenged by the average coursework is because people were calling that type of thing elitist.

      Instead, now we put the upper quartile in the same classes as the lower quartile so that nobody receives the particular level and kind of attention that they need, and everyone is held to “average” whether they’re predisposed to be above that expectation or below it.

      If someone is talented at a sport, people shower them with praise and give them full rides to college. If someone is talented at math or writing, people tell them to be a team player and stop surpassing their peers by so far. Merit-based scholarships are rare nowadays too, so good luck going to a top university just because you excel at your subjects…

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        Merit-based scholarships are rare nowadays too, so good luck going to a top university just because you excel at your subjects…

        At least that is not true.
        'The rest of it is, highschools are an enforcer of conformity and woe be to anyone that bends the curve.

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          When I was applying for financial aid I kept being told “We don’t offer merit-based scholarships. Everything is need-based and you’re considered for it automatically. No need to apply for one.”

          There might be some for STEM fields, but rarely a full ride. More like a $1000 discount on your tuition each semester, which leaves you with only about several dozen thousand of debt by the time you graduate…

  • Magpie@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    I’m not for or against vaccines. I was raised with my mother as a hard anti-vax and the rest of my family as a hard pro-vax, so I was used as an example a few too many times. I’ll meet in the middle.

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      2 months ago

      The misguided notion that you can find some sort of truth by meeting verifiable falsehoods halfway, is like 90% of the problem.

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      2 months ago

      What does ‘in the middle’ look like? Getting vaccines for some things and not others?

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        Nope. It looks like I don’t personally, am past the age of childhood vaccines anyway, and don’t give a shit whether other people do or not.

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            2 months ago

            Nope. I’m entirely neutral, though I find it interesting how aggressive people get when anyone doesn’t jump to their exact opinion. I’m not calling anyone stupid, yet you are. Interesting.

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        2 months ago

        There can be a middle to anything. Opinions are just that: opinions. I am neutral towards them. Me and my opinion does not affect you and your opinion, I am not stopping you from doing whatever you like.

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          2 months ago

          You’re wrong

          The opinions of antivaxxers, bigots etc. affect others

          I think you know this this, and are being disingenuous

          That, or you genuinely are that stupid, which is just sad

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            2 months ago

            I agree that they affect others when aggressively expressed. I also believe that they don’t when kept to oneself.

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    2 months ago

    You say this, but I got banned from a sub for being a corporate shill for trying to explain to what I’m pretty sure was a 13 year old kid that AI is not going to dissapear and that it’s not just a fun toy used to make shitty TikTok videos

    I would explain what AI Agents were and how they worked and what they did and I was told I was a troll that like to suck my bosses dick… and then I was banned

    My job? Software engineer. Been one for over 20 years.

    Those same people that called me a troll, a shill, a company man that liked to suck my bosses dick; the mods that banned me; they are all probably here right now talking about how stupid it is that people don’t listen to experts…

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      You’re a 1 week old account, and all you’ve done is shill AI non stop (with arguments that are wrong and uninformed).

      I think that supposed 13 year old is smarter than you, and I also think the mod was probably in the right.

      Oh, also. AI as in LLMs and agents is not the future. The fact that you’re a software engineer means nothing, you either are a bot or drank the kool aid. And after seeing you say lies such as “AI is already not a failure” or that is has done new things “more than any other invention in human history”, I don’t know if I should believe that you are a software engineer.

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        This is what I’m talking about…

        Deep Learning had a major breakthrough around 2012 with ImageNet. What we know today is already 14 years old. It wasn’t as good as it is today, or as accessible 14 years ago, but it was around. And people really think the world is just going to decide to forget we invented it any day now

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      I’m 37, you stupid fucking shill.

      And you are not a software developer. I don’t believe you. I don’t believe you have 20 years experience at being alive.

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        2 months ago

        If you’re 37 and you still call people a shill that’s just sad

        Weird you both think I’m an AI shill but also I’m not in the industry

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    2 months ago

    False dichotomy. There are credentialed doctors and scientists on both sides. It’s just that the actual research keeps coming down on the antivaxxer’s side.

    Example: Henry Ford Health Dr. Marcus Zervos.