TeaWithDani

Its ok, when you catch your breath and think it over rationally, you’ll understand you are the one misunderstanding and misrepresenting it. And like its not your fault. The Montreal Gazette has been stoking this hate for decades.

I gave you all the context you could possibly need. Now you just need to put yourself in the shoes of another person.

Trump can have this one if he can’t take the heat. ;)

-Its not a false equivalency. Its laws around displaying products accurately to the population, ie. must be in a sufficient amount of french so the majority of the Population can read it.

Btw, you can list any other language on signage, as long as french is also present and sufficiently prominent. Chinese restaurants have menus in chinese… but they double list the French items in a slightly larger font.

-Why is it similar to segregation in any way? English is permitted in the workplace. Workplaces under certain # are fully exempt and workplaces needing english/or other foreign languages have broad exceptions. How is anyone’s right trampled? The laws prevent requiring english proficiency when it is not necessary. Requiring it would be exclusionary.

Try maintaining a job at companies in Toronto refusing to speak any english and see if you can argue a human rights abuse case for your subsequent dismissal.

-I’m sorry, but this is contemporary enough. If you are upset at law 101, it came about in a context were some of these laws had only begun to be reversed in the 1960s and only partially. They had been in effect for many decades by then and its impact on french spoken outside of Quebec has been dramatic. Manitoba’s french demographic has been effectively erased. Ontario’s was maintained by underground clandestine schools. New Brunswick’s dialect was creolized.

Both Ontario and New Brunswick’s school systems are systematically underfunded. Francophone communities are constantly lobbying to not get dismissed by chauvinistic governments, even today. Doug Ford and former Blaine Higgs were no friends to francophones.

Compare honestly the state of English hospitals and schools, including cegeps and universities to those in New Brunswick, Ontario and Manitoba for francophones. Compare the language used in all four provincial legislators. Quebec’s english language institutions are amongst the safest and best protected in the entire country. Find me a more protected minority group in the Western World.

Ontario has a large francophone community, around 650 000, mostly in the East and North.

-Commercial speech is not protected speech and is highly regulated in every democratic country.

-The right to work in French is the basis of why workplace language laws exist.

-Yeah actually, read your history. French schools were banned by those provinces at different times.

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You are quoting me having modified my words, so you are not engaging with this in good faith.

Signage laws are not human rights abuses.

The right to work in French is not a human right abuse.

Making a strawman of it doesn’t change reality.

My rights as a Quebec anglophone have been better respected in the last 100 years than the rights of francophones in Ontario, Manitoba and New Brunswick. We should be proud of this heritage we built for ourselves in Quebec. Our cultural rights are legally protected.

Yes you are simping for American companies who have literally been pressuring the federal government for weeks/months/years to cave on every single language protection.

Small businesses have been, at worst, mildly inconvenienced in the last 50 years of signage laws existing. Society has been fine, apart from angryphones bitching now and then.

Just tell yourself that at the same time this was happening, the smartest people working for the Canadian government were planning how to best sanction all the red and swing states to deliver the most hurt.

And you can tell where someone is from in Quebec with how they pronounce “ARRÊT”

Having received warnings from the OQLF for stuff, they have always been courteous, patient and open to accommodations. Honestly, if you don’t throw a hissy fit it always works out fine and any penalty is easily avoidable.

The unfortunate reality is they have to investigate every complaint even if it’s spurious.

They also have cool guides on vocabulary for stuff you might only have english words for. People need to move on from 1976 lol.

The only people who stand to benefit slacking on enforcement are big American companies who want to save a tiny expense. The same who are pressuring us in current trade talks. So no, I don’t accept this constant malicious framing of reasonable enforcement of the law.

In Eastern Ontario you’ll see these signs along the highway that spell some safety message. They’ll have sometimes 2 or 3 in a row to fully tell you the thing in english. Then you’ll get the same signs again explaining it in french.

Damn straight. Upgrade Interac, nationalize it if needed.

Yeah, I think the future is bright. We need to cut out Microsoft, Google and Oracle from public service use. Hold Amazon accountable for its labour violations. Remove our data from US owned or located datacenters. Ban Facebook for its criminal activities. Force Netflix and other streamers to pay into our culture production funds and create/promote more Canadian/French Language content. We need to become food independent from the US. No way we should die from eating their bullshit.

We’ve allowed our sovereignty to be eroded by these companies who do whatever the fuck they want with no consequences.

And quite frankly, I think the Auto Industry in Ontario can die and then be replaced with military industries: small arms, drones and missiles. Enough fucking around.

Whatever, it’s a better retcon than everything J.K.Rowling said about Harry Potter.

The Matrix having a bunch of trans themes > Dumbledore having a throbbing gay sex backstory and the 1 jewish student being named Goldstein.

The Matrix actually supports those themes and readings within the work.

Trump 2028 will be run dead or alive, exactly.

I’m sure they already have the LLM ready to run his socials.

You guys are a bit optimistic if you think Mitch McConnell’s absence isnt a test run for something.