I think that as more people lose faith in capitalist reform and are pushed left, there’s potential for semantic drift, which is important to address. So just to clear up any miscommunication, liberalism is everything short of “we gotta get rid of capitalism”. Once you go over that line, you’re not a liberal anymore

Growing up a liberal means being immersed in 50 kinds of false consciousness, while conservatives have like 3 or 4 kinds

Liberals are capitalists, and have joined forces with fascists many times to violently protect capitalism from communists. The fact is, fascism would pose very little danger without liberal enablers. The way root-dwelling cyanobacteria allow plants to grow bigger.

Respectfully, I’m not sure you are appreciating just how expansive the realm of materialist analysis is, considering it’s just applying the scientific method to understanding the world. If it can be observed, it can be analyzed. I don’t reject the notion of that you’ll never quantify everything, but I also don’t think it’s worth it to let unknowns paralyze us in our actions when we’re in such a dire situation, out of time, and 95% sure of our course.

Can you think of any non context-dependent dynamics?

We’re not talking about a bar fight dude, we’re talking about eight years of ethnic cleansing and the threat of being nuked within minutes. Be serious please.

…except for anarcho-communists who actually know what they’re talking about.

That must be why anarcho-communism is the tendency that has spawned the most successful revolutions and uplifted all those hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. Oh, wait.

while still being humble enough to admit that it doesn’t necessarily hold all the right answers and that it’s not the only valid framework out there.

except for anarcho-communists who actually know what they’re talking about.

That’s the thing: we will never know how bad the Donbas war would have gotten if the Russia-Ukraine war hadn’t kicked off. it completely changed the situation for everybody. If, for example, China had invaded the Zionist entity on October 9th 2023 and taken all the zionist’s military resources away from targeting Palestinians, we could make the exact same argument because we wouldn’t know how bad it would have gotten. Of course, we live in the world where we’ve now had three years to see exactly why other countries should have attacked Israel on October 9th. So, so many people would still be alive.

Actually I’m comparing world war 2, when a nazi army marched east through Ukraine to visit unspeakable racialized violence upon Russian people, to the Ukraine war, when a nazi army drove east through Ukraine to visit unspeakable racialized violence upon Russian peole.

I actually did make that exact step as a teenage anarchist. Then I continued learning and realized this was an incorrect generalization, so I proceeded to update my understanding of the world in accordance with my dataset, something I have continued to do to this day and which has led me here. I followed a path of careful fact finding and reflection, and it turns out that political maturity is realizing the commies were correct.

If you learn enough, stay humble enough, and pay close enough attention, eventually that’s what happens. You realize that, generally speaking, the really high-octane commies have the most lucid understanding of the world out of any group out there, and the only reason this wasn’t always obvious to you was because you live under a capitalist power structure which aggressively indoctrinates its populace from birth into believing that communism is No No Bad Bad.

They have the most lucid and correct understanding of capitalism. They have the most lucid and correct understanding of imperialist extraction. They have the most lucid and correct understanding of western warmongering, global power dynamics, white supremacy, institutional racism and misogyny. That’s why they keep being proven right, about everything from US military actions to the fascism of the far right to the abusive nature of the so-called “moderate” liberal to the moral depravity of billionaires and the capitalist class.

Show me

Ok so like

Let’s see it

The re-education: “So yeah, it was actually bad of the theocracy to enslave you in literal chains, rape, torture and mutilate you for fun. The poverty and abuse you experienced was not a divine punishment for your sins in past lives like the monks told you, it was inflicted on you by a class-based system of exploitation. You have value in this life comrade, not just the next. Here are some shoes.”

We went back on promises and treats and it’s their fault!!

Genuinely baffled by what you could even be talking about here. Are you just free-associating?

Anyway, it’s always interesting how dronies talk about feudal Tibet the way Confederate flag guys talk about the Antebellum South:

It was such a charming traditional society where everything was just better! There was harmony, and everyone got along and everything Just Worked. But then the big commie government came along and tyrannically enforced their woke shit about “rights for serfs” and “girls learning to read”. We treated our nantsam like family, they were happy as slaves!

Nazism is when anti nazism

❌️ “Violence is morally bad”

❌️ “Violence is morally good”

✅️ “Morality isn’t real and violence simply Is.”

Condescension aside, saying that in favor of the faction that kicked this off by breaking both Minsk Agreements is some crazy irony

Anyway why did Russia cross the border, according to you?

Why do you think Russia invaded?

Good, so we agree that simply being invaded does not suddenly put a government on the right side of history.

Ever heard of the ethnic cleansing of the Donbas? The fact that the UKR regime’s attempt at a Holocaust was stopped at “only” a few thousand ethnic Russians does not make them magically not Nazis, nor does it change the perscription.

Germany was a Nazi state and they got invaded, whats your point