• CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I believe you. And that’s why you’re stupid. And with too many stupid Americans like you, we have Trump in power and the country is going down the toilet. Congratulations.

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      2 days ago

      Your the one without any logical consistency. Your the one defending terrible candidates, and a terrible party that handed the election over to Trump. You openly lied about how elections work, and didn’t know what your party had done. Your the one who presumeably voted for a pro-genocide, pro-rape candidate. I don’t see why Libs keep blaming the results of their actions on others.

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        2 days ago

        Wow do you really not understand the math?
        Ok, let’s try this.
        Imagine there are 22 voters including yourself. The other 21 have already voted. 10 voted for candidate A, 10 voted for candidate B. You like candidate C better but obviously they cant’t win. You know candidate A is better even though you don’t like them. And you know B is particularly bad.
        If you vote for A, they win and you block B from winning. But you vote C because you’re a moron. Now A and B are tied; they flip a coin and B wins. You could have blocked B but you didn’t. And now you are stuck with B, because of your own actions. You are responsible for it.
        Is that simple enough for you?

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          1 day ago

          Yeah, that’s pretty simple. And if it had any relation to the real world, it would be a good analogy.

          But A) I would not be responsible for it, B) I didn’t know who anyone voted for, and C) If you add up all of the 3rd party voters, and gave them to Harris (which is a big assumption), she still would have lost.

          You can keep making up obviously flawed scenarios where you blame the voters, but I prefer to focus on the real-world scenario, and blame the people with the power, the money, and the platform. They ran terrible candidates, who ran terrible campaigns, and openly ignored what the voters wanted.

          But you decided to (presumeably) sacrifice your morals, and vote for genocide. And all you got out of it is this shitty Trump presidency. I don’t understand why you blame the people who had no power to stop that, instead of the people who had the power to stop it, but chose to keep supporting a genocide instead.

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            1 day ago

            I didn’t vote at all since I’m not in your stupid country, thank goodness.
            But if you’re saying your ignorance for the possible outcomes being either Harris or Trump is some kind of shield to your stupidity, you’re wrong. Only one or the other had a chance, and you already admitted that you knew that anyway. So the simplified example I gave is a direct analogy to reality at the time and what everyone with half a brain cell knew. What you didn’t know goin into the election was how close it would be and whether throwing your vote away would matter. It could have been the deciding vote, but you still chose to let Trump win. You don’t get a purity prize for voting for a candidate that can’t win - no one cares - it just meant that you effectively helped Trump. As such you own that. And since you’re likely to make the same stupid decision in the future, you’ll be responsible for that too.

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              23 hours ago

              But if you’re saying your ignorance for the possible outcomes being either Harris or Trump is some kind of shield to your stupidity, you’re wrong.

              I never claimed ignorance about that at all. Unlike you, I did my research. You were the one who didn’t know how the voting system works. I’m pointing out how bad your analogy was.

              So the simplified example I gave is a direct analogy to reality at the time and what everyone with half a brain cell knew.

              Sure, except for it was completely off. Which I guess says a lot about your self-admitted half-of-a-brain cell.

              What you didn’t know goin into the election was how close it would be and whether throwing your vote away would matter.

              I knew it was about a 50/50 shot, as long as Harris kept up her terrible campaign. I also knew that she could have easily won, but chose not to, so that she could keep supporting genocide. Luckily for me, I didn’t throw my vote away, and I used it as efficiently as I could.

              It could have been the deciding vote, but you still chose to let Trump win.

              No matter how many times you lie about this, it remains untrue. I didn’t ‘let’ him win, as I voted against him. I also never had the deciding vote, which I always correctly knew I wouldn’t have.

              You don’t get a purity prize for voting for a candidate that can’t win…

              Well it’s a good thing I wasn’t going for a purity prize. I was going for “anyone who was against genocide, the bombing of kids, rape, and torture.”

              … - no one cares - it just meant that you effectively helped Trump.

              Well, most American’s don’t care, just like you don’t seem to care, as long as the genocide keeps going. I’d recomend you look up how bad genocide is, because I feel like if you learned about it, you’d change your mind and become anti-genocide, instead of your current position of pro-genocide.

              And, as has been repeated many times before, I didn’t “effectively” help Trump, or anyone else win. Your continued lying doesn’t make it true.

              As such you own that.

              I would own that, if I had done it. I own the fact that I voted against Trump, and I own the fact that I once voted for Obama, to my great shame. But he bombed the fuck out of kids, just like Biden did, and just like Harris made clear that she would also continue to do.

              And since you’re likely to make the same stupid decision in the future, you’ll be responsible for that too.

              And I’ll hapily own my responsibility for voting against genocide, something that seems to irritate you. But of course, we can easily guess why that is.

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                16 hours ago

                Yes you effectively helped Trump win. I’ve made it as simple as I could for you to understand, but you seem determined to be stupid. I suspect you really do understand and you just can’t face it. It’s quite sad really.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Well, your explanations only work as long as you keep lying about how the process and execution of elections work. I would understand, if you could explain it without lying. But I wouldn’t expect someone who defends rapist-supporters, and genocide-supporters to act honestly.

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                    9 hours ago

                    I have already explained it. Maybe you could try and explain why you think it doesn’t help Trump by not voting effectively against him?
                    Once you grow up, you might understand how you’re the one that supported Trump the pedofile, so maybe look in the mirror before you start throwing shade.