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    I never saw anyone here saying that Trump would be better. Also, the idea that either lost because of their “happiness and laughter” ignores all of the death and destruction they promised to bring.

    Maybe they should have tried being popular candidates, and running on popular policies.

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      Trump isn’t even in the same ballpark. He has always been pure evil.

      Kamala was literally a public prosecutor who would help put people like Trump behind bars. They’re not the same

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        No, she helped put imigrants and people who smoked weed behind bars. They are both pro war, pro genocide, anti labor, pro big corporation, pro torture, etc. Not only are they in the same ballpark, they are playing for the same team. I never said they are the same, but they sure are similar.

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          She was the DA. It was her job to enforce laws. The solution to stupid laws isn’t selective enforcement, it’s changing the laws.

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            DAs have a lot of control over which laws they enforce, and how. The solution is both.

            California has some of the most openly corrupt cops in the country. She could have enforced the laws against them, but she chose not to.

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              Selective enforcement is how you get a society that throws the book at black dudes smoking weed and looks the other way on white college kids doing the same. As a general rule I think it’s a terrible way to structure a legal system, and I find it hard to blame a DA for doing DA shit.

              DAs are always in an awkward compromise where they are reliant on police but also in the position to oversee and discipline them. If you go too far one way, you’ll be unable to hire cops and do your job. Is there any evidence Harris looked the other way on some big scandal?

              And anyway, this is all a distraction from the choice between Harris and Trump being plainly fucking obvious. Did you make the right choice or fail to be an adult?

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                Selective enforcement is how you get a society that throws the book at black dudes smoking weed and looks the other way on white college kids doing the same.

                I actually kind of agree. If we had put Trump in prison for being a child rapist, or fraud, or any other number of things, we wouldn’t be in this position today. But Biden wasn’t interested in any of that.

                …I find it hard to blame a DA for doing DA shit.

                I disagree here. I think it’s easy to blame them. They made their choice, and I can be critical of it.

                DAs are always in an awkward compromise where they are reliant on police but also in the position to oversee and discipline them. If you go too far one way, you’ll be unable to hire cops and do your job.

                Well, I’m not convinced that hiring crooked cops is better than not hiring cops. The not-so-big secret is that they are all working for the same team: The rich and powerful. They aren’t going to go after the people they work for.

                Is there any evidence Harris looked the other way on some big scandal?

                Not that I know of. But there is evidence that she used her power to imprison people for bullshit “crimes”, that she brushed off when asked if she did those same crimes.

                And anyway, this is all a distraction from the choice between Harris and Trump being plainly fucking obvious. Did you make the right choice or fail to be an adult?

                Yes, the plainly fucking obvious choice was neither. They are both openly and unashamedly monsters, so yes, I was an adult and voted against both of them.

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                  Biden wasn’t interested in any of that.

                  The DOJ isn’t supposed to be the president’s personal hit squad. That’s what Trump and tinpot dictators do. That said, the DOJ did go after Trump. He was indicted on the mishandling of classified information, election interference, and the Jan 6th case was the biggest case ever prosecuted by the FBI, and would have likely culminated in charges being filed against the ringleaders, including Trump. If only…

                  I […] voted against both of them

                  If only you knew how your democracy works and wanted to participate in it. The only way to vote against Harris was to vote for Trump. The only way to vote against Trump was to vote for Harris. You chose neither. You may as well have stayed home. Thanks for this bullshit. It’s really great, isn’t it?

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                    The DOJ isn’t supposed to be the president’s personal hit squad. That’s what Trump and tinpot dictators do. That said, the DOJ did go after Trump. He was indicted on the mishandling of classified information, election interference, and the Jan 6th case was the biggest case ever prosecuted by the FBI, and would have likely culminated in charges being filed against the ringleaders, including Trump. If only…

                    It sure seems to be when it’s convenient for them. Biden had the power to go after Trump, and decided to slow-walk the entire process. That’s literally what the Executive branch does. It didn’t even have to be a “personal hit squad” kinda thing, the crimes were public. Biden just didn’t care.

                    If only you knew how your democracy works and wanted to participate in it. The only way to vote against Harris was to vote for Trump. The only way to vote against Trump was to vote for Harris. You chose neither. You may as well have stayed home. Thanks for this bullshit. It’s really great, isn’t it?

                    I do know how it works. It’d be nice if you read up on it. You see, our ballots have more than two options on who to vote for. You can even write in whoever you want! I was able to vote against both of them, because I read the ballot, and know how the process works.

                    You can justify your support for child-killing and genocide any way you want, but your party is the one that threw away an easy win, and let Trump back in, all because they cared more about supporting said genocide. Don’t be mad at me for fighting against Trump and genocide, be mad at them for not fighting.