• 🇵🇸antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    What a joke. She is a fucking opportunist. DSA would be foolish to back her she will spit on them every step of her way to power.

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      2 months ago

      Ahhh, there we go. Incremental improvement is a sucker’s bet, so how’s “burn it all down” going so far?

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        She voted to give weapons to Israel, to redefine antisemitism to include antizionism, and to break a rail strike. Each of those is a significant red flag that, regardless of progressive posturing, she will submit to the wishes of the establishment when push comes to shove.

        The state of politics in the US is so bad that many progressives will immediately cling to and champion anyone who says progressive things, but talk is cheap. It’s fair to evaluate and judge politicians not just by their rhetoric, but whether they actually follow through with their promises.

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          Oh hey, it’s Objection, the bought and paid for Kremlin bot who doesn’t say a single thing in good faith and should not be taken seriously. Notice how they constantly link government funded tracts as if they’re sources. This person, if they are a person, has zero credibility.

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            Notice how they constantly link government funded tracts as if they’re sources.

            If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

            Yes yes, I know, I’ve engaged in wrongthink, therefore I’m a “Kremlin bot” and can be written out regardless of how much evidence I provide for the things I’m saying. Notice that I didn’t link any “government funded tracts” here, but the DSA’s own statements about this. Unless you’re implying that the DSA is also full of “Kremlin bots?”

        • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          This take is so stupid. It’s clear online lefties have absolutely no idea about i/p except what they see from twitter and instagram. Yea, the state of us politics is so bad, I agree, that lefties are incapable of dealing with any reality outside of slop soundbites

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            We all know how much they hate libs, it’s their most-used pejorative. To be fair though, establishment liberals (eg Schumer) are part of the reason we’re in this mess… I can’t say I hold them in high regard either.

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              Yes but most tankies seem to hate centrist neoliberal Dems worse than they hate maga republicans. And they consider DSA to be centrist neolibs like the rest if the democratic party.

              They’d rather see a trump third term than a Dem or even DSA president.

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                  Not sure what you’re intending to accomplish by saying that or how it applies to what I said. But I wouldn’t call him great. Influential, yes, infamous, also yes. But not great.

                  Unless you consider Hitler to be a “great man,” but honestly trump is closer to Mussolini (although he wishes he could be like Hitler). Hitler accomplished more than trump could dream of. Evil, repugnant, and deplorable, yes. But effective, without a doubt.

                  And I also wouldn’t say it’s accidental. He views himself as a “great man,” and tries to do what he thinks a great man would. But everything he does is what a small man would, because he has the mind of a small man. He just happens to have fallen into a life of privilege which surrounded him with the people and wealth necessary to achieve what he has. Anyone placed in his shoes could have accomplished as much and more, and done it better.

                  So no, he’s not an “accidental great man.” He’s a failed attempt at greatness which happens to have caused immense destruction to everything and everyone except for his corrupt inner circle which is profiting off of that destruction. If that’s what “greatness” is to you, then we don’t see eye-to-eye.