• Canaconda@lemmy.ca
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    12 hours ago

    Jesus is a verified factual historical figure who was executed more or less according to Biblical tradition.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

    My understanding is that the Romans killed Jesus because they just wanted to avoid Jewish people rioting against Roman occupation. The Jewish priests framed Jesus so this would happen because he was speaking against specifically their religious power (He was not anti-rome).

    I subscribe to the belief that some of Jesus’ disciples faked his resurrection and started a cult.

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      11 hours ago

      It seems likely that he was an actual person. It is not verified, nor is it verifiable. This is the kind of shit Bible apologists like to whip out as if it confirms their beliefs. Almost to a person, people who refer to the Historicity of Jesus Wikipedia page use terms like “verified fact” in the same breath. If you’re not intending to be a Bible apologist, you should probably take a different tack.

      Nobody (especially the apologist) gives a shit whether some rando Nazarine created a religious movement. They were a dime a dozen. And just because one did, doesn’t mean he is the Son of God, or that God even exists. There is literally no useful knowledge to be had in pointing out that Jesus was probably a real person, so the assumption will always be made that if you’re hell bent on making sure everybody knows he was so totally super-duper real guys, then you must have an agenda.

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        11 hours ago

        I’m sorry you’re so upset about people correcting misinformation.

        PS: There’s one useful thing about telling people that Jesus existed: We don’t have to suffer smug atheists being like “haha Jesus is fake I’m so smart.”

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          10 hours ago

          Calling Jesus “verified fact” is the only misinformation in this thread buddy. I’m sorry you and all the morons like you believe in fairy tales. The world sucks because of it.

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            9 hours ago

            Well he’s attested in literary evidence with uncontested reliability, which makes him about as unverified as Julius Caesar.

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              haha yes, Jesus of Nazareth and Julius Ceasar, totally the same! As one would expect of a… peasant zealot and the leader of the largest empire in the Western world. Their respective footprints in history, shit they might as well be twins!

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      12 hours ago

      Jesus is a verified factual historical figure

      [Citation needed]

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        12 hours ago

        [Citation needed]

        Brain Pulse needed.

        Like seriously so easy to find that for yourself unless you’re an AI slop consumer.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

        Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure, and the idea that Jesus was a mythical figure has been consistently rejected by the scholarly consensus as a fringe theory.

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          12 hours ago

          Brain pulse? 😆 Breaking out the first grade insults that were thrown at you as a child is really incredibly pathetic.

          Try opening a book other than just the one. Come back when you have an insult worth reading.

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            12 hours ago

            Breaking out the first grade insults

            I have to insult you in a way you can understand or it’s pointless.

            Come back when you have an insult worth reading.

            You should be thanking me since you weirdly enjoy this.

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              11 hours ago

              You replied with “Just insulting you on your education level” and then deleted it, probably because someone else told you it was dumb. Then your “upgrade” from that reply is this? You’re hopeless.