• 4grams@awful.systems
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    I wholeheartedly agree, but I don’t think this country is capable. You call out anyone for their hateful thetoric and you are accused of being the one who is out of line. Americans are so unbelievably afraid of any confrontation or pushback that we will defend the evil asshole’s right to be an evil asshole, but never their target.

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      We had our chance in the 1930s and 40s. We failed back then. And with things even more stacked now there’s no chance. I’d like to be surprised. But everyone is still sleepwalking to be sure.

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        I may be misremembering, but wasn’t the general American population around the 1940s in favor of Nazism, until Pearl Harbor at least?

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          Much of Europe was actually, antisemitism has always been strong across western European countries like France, Spain, and (at the time it was still considered one) the UK. And appeasement was an appealing option that most countries were in support of right up until the moment that the Nazis were in their borders blowing things up. The idea that the Allies had always opposed Nazi Germany - and especially that they did so for moral and ethical reasons - is one of the biggest white washing propaganda programs in modern history.

          America holds the special distinction of being the only country besides Germany to hold a Nazi convention, though, and we did almost join the war on their side a couple of times while we were also funneling money and arms to various other nations in Europe.

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          A decent portion of it yes. Several ships of Jewish refugees turned away. There was even a plot to install their own authoritarian furer by deposing FDR. Unfortunately a lot of the details were lost to history due to FDR’s wheeling and dealing. Blackmailing the guilty parties in Congress to pass the new deal.But look up the business plot. The lot of them should have been publicly hung.