• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    If public anything is socialist, then every nation on Earth has always been and is socialist.

    I think that’s a little too broad of a definition, but I’m not a political scientist.

    p.s. NYC always stank like garbage and urine in summer, nice to see some progress. Maybe weld a urinal onto the new garbage bins?

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      So I haven’t been able to figure out where I fit because the classifications are too broad and don’t fit a modern society anyway. I mean half the shit we argue about (capitalism, socialism, communism) seems to my uneducated eye to be economic systems, not political systems, so i get severely confused when people talk about them like political systems. Why can’t we have democratic communism for example?

      Again, I haven’t taken a political science course, but I don’t see an inherent contradiction in calling myself a democratic libertarian communist. People should be free to do as they please with some perhaps common good exceptions, but the means of production should be controlled by the people by way of voting. That doesn’t seem contradictory.

      But you tell that to someone who studies this more seriously and they look like I’ve grown three heads. I don’t get it TBH.

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        I would argue that “democratic” and “libertarian” are inherently at odds, but otherwise agree (and believe most people do)

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        You’re doing fine, it sounds like the people you’re talking to aren’t as politically educated as you think they are.

      • Sidyctism II.@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I think most people would just call that libertarian socialism. In general some form of public political participation is implied when you say youre a socialist