• Akasazh@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    The difference is that Tourettes is a serious mental disorder over which one had no agency, whereas Trump is just a shitty human being.

    The rape, the grift, the corruption is all intentional. He is morally responsable and should be held accountable.

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      6 days ago

      no one is disputing that trump is shitty human being - two things can be true at the same time.

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        No but comparing it to Tourettes is absolving him from reasonability, by comparison, which is abject.

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          at this point, i am pretty sure he is completely demented, so i really wonder how much reason is left there.

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              Ability to reason is necessary prerequisite to moral culpability. 8 month old toddlers know nothing about moral and are not responsible for their actions and neither are some 80 yo demented seniors.

              Neither one of them should, for the same reason, be a president, but here we are…

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                One of the few things I’d grant Donald Trump is a level of thinking above that if a 8yo toddler. Also dementia isn’t taking away moral responsibility, it just makes ones actions more blatant and less obfuscated, removing the masking that someone did to present like a moral actor in the past.

                But I do not see why you would be so adamant to protect Trump from moral judgement. I would think the dementia is the least of all things why he shouldn’t be in office, because, you know, all the crime.

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                  Also dementia isn’t taking away moral responsibility,

                  there is a reason we don’t send kids to jail, you do need some level of intellect before you can be held accountable.