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I disagree with that. If I criticize western imperialism, it’s often assumed, regardless of what I actually say, that I’m supporting US geopolitical rivals. This has pretty much always been the case throughout history. Call for peace, say, after 9/11, and you’d be accused of supporting Bin Laden. Since the enemy is always painted as the more evil and aggressive party, it means that those who oppose war and imperialism will always get labelled as being the most aggressive and imperialistic. Historically, this was even the cause of the breakdown of the Second International, the split between social democrats and Marxist-Leninists. MLs opposed WWI while social democratic parties across Europe supported it.
And naturally, part of opposing war means refuting blatant misinformation about the enemy, because if the hawks can say whatever they want about them they can naturally make it look like war is an obvious choice. But the moment you start refuting misinformation, for example, the story about everyone in North Korea having to get the same haircut, you are now “defending” or “glazing” North Korea, regardless of any other, more grounded criticisms you might have of it.
For generations, the Western left has allowed such misinformation to run rampant, in order to avoid being associated with states like the USSR, and the result have been disastrous. Historically, unions expelled communists and radicals and did everything they could to appease the US government, and they were gutted anyway. Now, things have gone so far that even conservative liberals like Biden get painted as “communists.” What I said before, criticizing US imperialism, is more than enough for people to label me a communist, a tankie, whatever. Maybe you wouldn’t, but others would. The comment I responded to was specifically looking to “ragebait tankies” by glazing US imperialism.
In my view, we should speak the truth regardless of whatever labels are assigned to us, communist, socialist, red, tankie, pinko, they can accuse us of what they will. Wear whatever label with pride, and you can at least have a chance to define it for ourselves.
Sure, and you are the most sane person I’ve seen from .ml. Most of them act like Putin and Xi Jinping are humanitarians with rainbows shooting out of their asses and that any criticism of their authoritarianism is propaganda.
Thank you. There are some types like that, who overcorrect or take things too far. That Jank4life guy isn’t exactly the best representative of our instance with his low effort bait, and I have a lot of disagreements with Geneva_Convenience as well. But I have a lot of respect for Cowbee and Diva, for example.
Personally, I would like it if there was a place on the fediverse that was for more formal, academic level discussions, where personal attacks and accusations were strictly moderated on all sides. I think that people act more defensive and rude when they expect the other side to, and it creates a vicious cycle, which can also lead to people adopting “maximalist” positions. I’ve thought about creating a comm like that myself, but I doubt people would actually participate or accept me as an impartial moderator.
I disagree with that. If I criticize western imperialism, it’s often assumed, regardless of what I actually say, that I’m supporting US geopolitical rivals. This has pretty much always been the case throughout history. Call for peace, say, after 9/11, and you’d be accused of supporting Bin Laden. Since the enemy is always painted as the more evil and aggressive party, it means that those who oppose war and imperialism will always get labelled as being the most aggressive and imperialistic. Historically, this was even the cause of the breakdown of the Second International, the split between social democrats and Marxist-Leninists. MLs opposed WWI while social democratic parties across Europe supported it.
And naturally, part of opposing war means refuting blatant misinformation about the enemy, because if the hawks can say whatever they want about them they can naturally make it look like war is an obvious choice. But the moment you start refuting misinformation, for example, the story about everyone in North Korea having to get the same haircut, you are now “defending” or “glazing” North Korea, regardless of any other, more grounded criticisms you might have of it.
For generations, the Western left has allowed such misinformation to run rampant, in order to avoid being associated with states like the USSR, and the result have been disastrous. Historically, unions expelled communists and radicals and did everything they could to appease the US government, and they were gutted anyway. Now, things have gone so far that even conservative liberals like Biden get painted as “communists.” What I said before, criticizing US imperialism, is more than enough for people to label me a communist, a tankie, whatever. Maybe you wouldn’t, but others would. The comment I responded to was specifically looking to “ragebait tankies” by glazing US imperialism.
In my view, we should speak the truth regardless of whatever labels are assigned to us, communist, socialist, red, tankie, pinko, they can accuse us of what they will. Wear whatever label with pride, and you can at least have a chance to define it for ourselves.
Sure, and you are the most sane person I’ve seen from .ml. Most of them act like Putin and Xi Jinping are humanitarians with rainbows shooting out of their asses and that any criticism of their authoritarianism is propaganda.
The propaganda issue goes all ways.
Thank you. There are some types like that, who overcorrect or take things too far. That Jank4life guy isn’t exactly the best representative of our instance with his low effort bait, and I have a lot of disagreements with Geneva_Convenience as well. But I have a lot of respect for Cowbee and Diva, for example.
Personally, I would like it if there was a place on the fediverse that was for more formal, academic level discussions, where personal attacks and accusations were strictly moderated on all sides. I think that people act more defensive and rude when they expect the other side to, and it creates a vicious cycle, which can also lead to people adopting “maximalist” positions. I’ve thought about creating a comm like that myself, but I doubt people would actually participate or accept me as an impartial moderator.
There is the changemyview sub but it didn’t really get the traction here that it had on reddit.