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I wouldn’t say ripped Aryan men is the “main topic” of the joke. The subject of the joke is very clearly the “who cares how it was coded” crowd (referencing those permissive of LLMs). Along with the implication that their “idea” of an ideal human is counter to the fact that many of the best technical professionals (whome they could only aspire to imitate) are often, distinctly, not aligned with that perceived ideal.
See, humor is all about the juxtaposition of novel subjects.
It just doesn’t fit with everything else in the community, in my opinion. I’m here for nerdy jokes, harmless laughs, and occasionally poking fun at vibe coders too.
But again, I don’t like how autistic, trans, etc. people are positioned as the “opposite” of a “shredded Aryan German”, particularly as an autistic person myself. Maybe don’t have that in a programming humour community, you know? Just my thoughts though
I’m diagnosed ASD myself. A lot of us on Lemmy are most likely.
I think where I’m getting confused is where we’re taking issue with distinguishing “autistic transgender puppygirl” and “shredded Aryan German guy”. Those are distinctly, visually, very different things. In order for the joke to land the reader needs to be able to distinguish the contents of the juxtaposition.
I don’t think this joke would have landed if the dichotomy being drawn was between “one perfectly valid human being” and “another perfectly valid human being, who has problematic views on the states relationship with the body-politic.”
You could remove the reference to autism I suppose but, again, the joke is in the fact that the vibe-coding chud is angry that they are mogged by what they perceive as ‘lesser’. For that to work you need to create some homunculus that will represent that person.
I just think it isn’t super on-topic, being a nerdy programmer jokes community, and if the programmer joke requires referencing bigotry to work, then maybe it isn’t that great of a joke.
Again, just my own thoughts on the matter. Feel free to disagree with me.
I do. You’re describing a bar for humor where we can’t even make fun of Nazis because, to do so, would require referencing the existence of Nazis.
Technology is political. If we limit humor here to be exclusively word-play about obscure CS topics then this is going to get very boring very quickly. I feel for you if this rubbed you the wrong way but, particularly in today’s climate, we can’t flinch from stuff like this.
The enemy hates you. They despise you in ways that can scarcely be imagined. You must mock them at every turn.
I just think this meme has the vibe coder part tacked on, and the message is pretty much “xenophobic racists hate minorities and should be ridiculed”. It is very true that we live in a dangerous time, the far right and their hatred should not be normalised, more people should be aware, but part of the reason why I follow silly communities like programmer humour is to enjoy nerdy jokes and laughs.
There’s lots of other comms where this message could be better received I feel. Not only the politics ones, mind you, screw the whole “apolitical = accepting the far-right as equals” schtick, this should be in non-political communities should it be on-topic (Criticising Palantir being used as an apparatus for surveillance and fascism shouldn’t be blocked for being “political”, criticising companies that donate to far-right politicians shouldn’t be blocked for being “political”, etc.)
edit: I also believe that it’s not really that good of a joke, you know? It would have been better to not mention “buff Aryan Germans” at all (the joke would have made sense without it) and to not list as many attributes as one can to highlight this person is very different (and implicitly separating them from “normal” people, even if it was not the intention).
There are plenty of jokes about autistic, trans, furry, etc. people in the tech sphere, and it’s fine to joke about the hypocrisy of xenophobic AI bros, but having all the minorities lumped in and put as the opposite to a “buff Aryan German” as a joke leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I would say vibe-coding is on topic for programming humor.
Most of the other bits about “shredded Aryan Germans” and all that isn’t though, and is the main topic of the “joke”.
Sorry mate I think you may have missed the joke?
I wouldn’t say ripped Aryan men is the “main topic” of the joke. The subject of the joke is very clearly the “who cares how it was coded” crowd (referencing those permissive of LLMs). Along with the implication that their “idea” of an ideal human is counter to the fact that many of the best technical professionals (whome they could only aspire to imitate) are often, distinctly, not aligned with that perceived ideal.
See, humor is all about the juxtaposition of novel subjects.
It just doesn’t fit with everything else in the community, in my opinion. I’m here for nerdy jokes, harmless laughs, and occasionally poking fun at vibe coders too.
But again, I don’t like how autistic, trans, etc. people are positioned as the “opposite” of a “shredded Aryan German”, particularly as an autistic person myself. Maybe don’t have that in a programming humour community, you know? Just my thoughts though
I’m diagnosed ASD myself. A lot of us on Lemmy are most likely.
I think where I’m getting confused is where we’re taking issue with distinguishing “autistic transgender puppygirl” and “shredded Aryan German guy”. Those are distinctly, visually, very different things. In order for the joke to land the reader needs to be able to distinguish the contents of the juxtaposition.
I don’t think this joke would have landed if the dichotomy being drawn was between “one perfectly valid human being” and “another perfectly valid human being, who has problematic views on the states relationship with the body-politic.”
You could remove the reference to autism I suppose but, again, the joke is in the fact that the vibe-coding chud is angry that they are mogged by what they perceive as ‘lesser’. For that to work you need to create some homunculus that will represent that person.
I just think it isn’t super on-topic, being a nerdy programmer jokes community, and if the programmer joke requires referencing bigotry to work, then maybe it isn’t that great of a joke.
Again, just my own thoughts on the matter. Feel free to disagree with me.
I do. You’re describing a bar for humor where we can’t even make fun of Nazis because, to do so, would require referencing the existence of Nazis.
Technology is political. If we limit humor here to be exclusively word-play about obscure CS topics then this is going to get very boring very quickly. I feel for you if this rubbed you the wrong way but, particularly in today’s climate, we can’t flinch from stuff like this.
The enemy hates you. They despise you in ways that can scarcely be imagined. You must mock them at every turn.
I just think this meme has the vibe coder part tacked on, and the message is pretty much “xenophobic racists hate minorities and should be ridiculed”. It is very true that we live in a dangerous time, the far right and their hatred should not be normalised, more people should be aware, but part of the reason why I follow silly communities like programmer humour is to enjoy nerdy jokes and laughs.
There’s lots of other comms where this message could be better received I feel. Not only the politics ones, mind you, screw the whole “apolitical = accepting the far-right as equals” schtick, this should be in non-political communities should it be on-topic (Criticising Palantir being used as an apparatus for surveillance and fascism shouldn’t be blocked for being “political”, criticising companies that donate to far-right politicians shouldn’t be blocked for being “political”, etc.)
edit: I also believe that it’s not really that good of a joke, you know? It would have been better to not mention “buff Aryan Germans” at all (the joke would have made sense without it) and to not list as many attributes as one can to highlight this person is very different (and implicitly separating them from “normal” people, even if it was not the intention).
There are plenty of jokes about autistic, trans, furry, etc. people in the tech sphere, and it’s fine to joke about the hypocrisy of xenophobic AI bros, but having all the minorities lumped in and put as the opposite to a “buff Aryan German” as a joke leaves a bad taste in my mouth.