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Guess what. Not working hard had even worse outcomes. I’m kind of scared for the future with so many Gen Z being huge slackers and emotional weaklings.
I’ll tell you what what! Theys gene Z should break their backs in the mines just like I did and my pappy did! Then master let’s you lynch ******* and that’s what life is all about, I’ll tell you!
There’s a big difference between working hard to get ahead and what you’re babbling about. I get the feeling from here that young people feel that harder workers shouldn’t be rewarded and slackers should earn the same.
No. They’re pointing out that hard work doesn’t make you exceptional, doesn’t get you rewarded and doesn’t get you ahead.
Since you apparently haven’t actually been working for the past fifteen years, the social contract has been almost entirely broken. Busting your arse gets you the same pay as the dude who takes four hour smoke breaks and a shittier quality of life due to stress.
Workers are just refusing to be exploited
Yeah there may be some smaller companies that recognise and recompense great work, but they are the exception, not the rule. And they are increasingly unicorns.
Retired a few back but keep in touch with the higher ups as well. You’re completely wrong with that statement. Many people get rewarded for hard work. But in order to get rewarded, do you have to be the one that is seriously helping the company. If you’re talking about the bottom of the worker pile then you have to do something to stand out. In my case I started off building on the factory line. Saw what they ran for computer systems. Trained myself at my own expense to learn them and ingrain to myself Socially with the people that ran them. Hard work isn’t just the physical part. It’s also the mental part and most importantly the social part. So much of business is social and if they don’t know who you are they’ll never know the hard work you’re doing or how beneficial you are to the company. If you are, that is.
Perfect example of the defeatist attitude. Btw it’s not an ancient system. Didn’t even exist in my grandparents time. Neither did the concept of a weekend.
You guys are the majority now. Make the changes you want.
Those 2 generations fight to get that. I remember cars being burned and flipped during strikes when I was young. This generation needs to do the same. Now when people go on strike everybody hates on them. Our grandparents put their lives on the line to get pensions, weekend, overtime pay etc etc. People now are letting it all slip away. Time to stop blaming the ones that got it and start blaming the ones letting it go.
That is so very far away from the actual expressed sentiment that I’m genuinely concerned that your underlying expectations of people and the world, completely hinders your ability to see reality at all.
Oh I see reality. I also see this next gen of workers coming in who are nothing like Gen X or even millennials. My underlying expectations are if you’re hired by someone be a good worker, work hard. Try to make the company better and if you’re good at it, the company will see this and promote you. Nothing crazy and nothing out of the reality that I experienced during my working life. Now I do see some new workers with the required social skills and knowledge to zoom up the ladder pretty quick, but that’s definitely not the norm.
I think you got to spend too much online if this is the mental attitude you have. There’s tons of opportunity and good jobs and unemployment is crazy low right now. Like I said, get yourself a skill or a trade and there’s a shit pile of money to be made and as much work as you’re willing to do. I mean it took me and most of my friends into our forties to really accumulate anything, but I feel like the people on here think they should be rich or that every boomer was rich in their thirties. That’s very bizarre and a big disconnect from the reality that it actually was for many
Guess what. Not working hard had even worse outcomes. I’m kind of scared for the future with so many Gen Z being huge slackers and emotional weaklings.
I’ll tell you what what! Theys gene Z should break their backs in the mines just like I did and my pappy did! Then master let’s you lynch ******* and that’s what life is all about, I’ll tell you!
There’s a big difference between working hard to get ahead and what you’re babbling about. I get the feeling from here that young people feel that harder workers shouldn’t be rewarded and slackers should earn the same.
No. They’re pointing out that hard work doesn’t make you exceptional, doesn’t get you rewarded and doesn’t get you ahead.
Since you apparently haven’t actually been working for the past fifteen years, the social contract has been almost entirely broken. Busting your arse gets you the same pay as the dude who takes four hour smoke breaks and a shittier quality of life due to stress.
Workers are just refusing to be exploited
Yeah there may be some smaller companies that recognise and recompense great work, but they are the exception, not the rule. And they are increasingly unicorns.
Retired a few back but keep in touch with the higher ups as well. You’re completely wrong with that statement. Many people get rewarded for hard work. But in order to get rewarded, do you have to be the one that is seriously helping the company. If you’re talking about the bottom of the worker pile then you have to do something to stand out. In my case I started off building on the factory line. Saw what they ran for computer systems. Trained myself at my own expense to learn them and ingrain to myself Socially with the people that ran them. Hard work isn’t just the physical part. It’s also the mental part and most importantly the social part. So much of business is social and if they don’t know who you are they’ll never know the hard work you’re doing or how beneficial you are to the company. If you are, that is.
Woah retirement? What’s that? Oh right, this ancient system none of us will ever get to enjoy.
Perfect example of the defeatist attitude. Btw it’s not an ancient system. Didn’t even exist in my grandparents time. Neither did the concept of a weekend.
You guys are the majority now. Make the changes you want.
Congrats on being one of 2 generations who got to benefit off of that before it got fucked for us.
Those 2 generations fight to get that. I remember cars being burned and flipped during strikes when I was young. This generation needs to do the same. Now when people go on strike everybody hates on them. Our grandparents put their lives on the line to get pensions, weekend, overtime pay etc etc. People now are letting it all slip away. Time to stop blaming the ones that got it and start blaming the ones letting it go.
That is so very far away from the actual expressed sentiment that I’m genuinely concerned that your underlying expectations of people and the world, completely hinders your ability to see reality at all.
Oh I see reality. I also see this next gen of workers coming in who are nothing like Gen X or even millennials. My underlying expectations are if you’re hired by someone be a good worker, work hard. Try to make the company better and if you’re good at it, the company will see this and promote you. Nothing crazy and nothing out of the reality that I experienced during my working life. Now I do see some new workers with the required social skills and knowledge to zoom up the ladder pretty quick, but that’s definitely not the norm.
Genx here:
Stop gobbling the boot.
Also Gen x
Work hard for what?
Look at the stories here.
Not everyone gets ownership, stock in a startup or something miraculous. And I’m older than Gen Z; I dunno how they even grew up sane.
You don’t need any of that to be successful. You just need a skill that pays and a willingness to work.
Oh look another rube for the meat grinder. Skip your kids birthdays and sports games working late for the company, I’m sure they’ll understand
Or you can be a slacker, not make any money, and your kids can live in a shitty apartment in the ghetto. I’m sure they’ll understand.
Or you can bust your ass and live in an apartment in the ghetto because no one wants to pay a living wage anymore.
Get a skill that pays well. Only takes a few years.
That’s basically where we’re headed anyways.
I think you got to spend too much online if this is the mental attitude you have. There’s tons of opportunity and good jobs and unemployment is crazy low right now. Like I said, get yourself a skill or a trade and there’s a shit pile of money to be made and as much work as you’re willing to do. I mean it took me and most of my friends into our forties to really accumulate anything, but I feel like the people on here think they should be rich or that every boomer was rich in their thirties. That’s very bizarre and a big disconnect from the reality that it actually was for many